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Crown Vic front end #2522121 07/15/18 12:40 PM 07/15/18 12:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE OP I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Anybody ever use a Crown Vic front end, they look like a nice unit that can be installed fairly fast. 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2522123 07/15/18 12:41 PM 07/15/18 12:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE OP I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	More 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2522127 07/15/18 01:00 PM 07/15/18 01:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Other than width it's a neat package. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2522257 07/15/18 06:49 PM 07/15/18 06:49 PM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada Old Ray enthusiast
Old Ray enthusiast Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada	Yes, it makes for a nice installation, but only if the track width is close. On top of being fairly wide it uses a very weird off set wheel. There are many threads on various web sites on numerous install including a guy that narrowed the cross member. Mostly used on '65 and up Ford pick up's, yep it's wide. I looked at it for my '56 Plymouth but the Dakota was a much better match.(like almost exact). Anyone looking at using the CV should do their home work, it is to wide for older cars.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: Old Ray] #2522499 07/16/18 11:06 AM 07/16/18 11:06 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,506 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,506 north of coder	what did you have in mind using that setup ?

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: moparx] #2522807 07/16/18 08:37 PM 07/16/18 08:37 PM
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flyman member F Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 189 mn	I was thinking on putting one under a 63 sweptline??

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2522824 07/16/18 09:15 PM 07/16/18 09:15 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Might fit, what's the track? Near as I can find, not being a truck guy, the 63's track is 64.7" the Crown Vic is 62.8" So it ought to work but the kicker is it appears that the frame width is the same at 34" for both. Some time with a tape measure and online looking at CV swaps might pay dividends. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2522885 07/16/18 10:37 PM 07/16/18 10:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,948 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,948 Freeport IL USA	You will have to remove the sweptline's under the motor crossmember, the CV's crossmember will occupy the same area. Then you will have to add a flat surface to the bottom of the Sweptline's frame from the rad support to the end of the rear spring hanger to get rid of the Mopar hump in the font frame rails so the CV suspension has something to "bolt" to. That flat surface will have to be long enough to pick up the back end of the lower control arm mounting as well, hopefully they are close enough inline with the other mounting holes. The CV has something like 4" of backspacing on the wheels, you did get the wheels as well, right? Take pictures of your progress. It would be nice to have a documented step by step procedure of another option for a front clip, as limited as it might be. Gene

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2522897 07/16/18 10:50 PM 07/16/18 10:50 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Panther rim offset answers https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1061930 Pretty sure it's not an issue if it doesn't hit. the stock rims have the offset they have to fit the chassis, the truck will have a different setup and will need rims to fit that. Last edited by Supercuda; 07/16/18 10:52 PM. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: Supercuda] #2522914 07/16/18 11:41 PM 07/16/18 11:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada Old Ray enthusiast
Old Ray enthusiast Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada	I think from speed reading the link and from a really old poor failing memory, I think there is some interference on the spindles with non-stock type wheels. (maybe)

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: poorboy] #2523839 07/18/18 10:28 PM 07/18/18 10:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE OP I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Originally Posted By poorboy You will have to remove the sweptline's under the motor crossmember, the CV's crossmember will occupy the same area. Then you will have to add a flat surface to the bottom of the Sweptline's frame from the rad support to the end of the rear spring hanger to get rid of the Mopar hump in the font frame rails so the CV suspension has something to "bolt" to. That flat surface will have to be long enough to pick up the back end of the lower control arm mounting as well, hopefully they are close enough inline with the other mounting holes. The CV has something like 4" of backspacing on the wheels, you did get the wheels as well, right? Take pictures of your progress. It would be nice to have a documented step by step procedure of another option for a front clip, as limited as it might be. Gene I was thinking of using this in my 37 Plymouth 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2523904 07/19/18 12:38 AM 07/19/18 12:38 AM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada Old Ray enthusiast
Old Ray enthusiast Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada	Originally Posted By AZ_A12_BEE I was thinking of using this in my 37 Plymouth Really ? http://canadianrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20843

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2523910 07/19/18 12:47 AM 07/19/18 12:47 AM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada Old Ray enthusiast
Old Ray enthusiast Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada	more; https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1441635-tell-me-im-stupid-crown-vic-ifs-50-f1.html https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/964486-crown-vic-track-width-question.html This is from measurements taken from an '05 Crown Vic. as close as I could measure. Track width with stock wheels - 63 1/2 Hub to hub surface - 67 1/2 Outside of tire - 71 1/4

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2523917 07/19/18 01:23 AM 07/19/18 01:23 AM
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64Bel member Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 91 Calgary, AB	Here's a thread from over at fbbo where he used one in a 66. https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/pro-touring-66-d100.130193/

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: flyman] #2524009 07/19/18 10:44 AM 07/19/18 10:44 AM
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Soopernaut master S Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,703 Des Moines IA	Originally Posted By flyman I was thinking on putting one under a 63 sweptline?? It's been done by quite a few people. There is still a lot of frame hacking required to do it. 1970 Dodge d100/eventually going on a 77 D100 frame

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2524015 07/19/18 10:55 AM 07/19/18 10:55 AM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada Old Ray enthusiast
Old Ray enthusiast Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 257 British Columbia, Canada	Store bought narrowed cross member 800.00 us dollars here; (kind of defeats the purpose of a inexpensive install?) http://team321.com/truckirs/narrowcvinstall/narrowcvinstall.html two narrowed crown vic cross-members, one welded, one bolted. The good news, this is my last post on this subject. ,

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: flyman] #2585869 12/01/18 09:56 PM 12/01/18 09:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 81 Michigan Truck Y'all ! member
Truck Y'all ! member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 81 Michigan	We put one in a 1965 D100 recently. Check "chopped up sweet sweptline" group on Facebook. Lots of pics posted there. A guy makes a kit which helps with the install. One of the annoying things is the factory steering column is not supported well near the bottom of the tube so removing the factory steering box removes its support. The steering shaft to connect the factory column to the Crown Vic steering rack may need some support, depending on how long it is on your application.

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #2588938 12/08/18 02:50 AM 12/08/18 02:50 AM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,042 colorado S savoy64 top fuel
savoy64 top fuel S Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,042 colorado	on the steering column issue the sweptline is a rear steer and the column dives at a sharp angle---the crown vic is a front steer---when you pick up the end of the steering column to put in on the steering gear the steering wheel drops onto the seat----so you need to weld in some ujoints or notch into the dash board to raise the steering column.....if you dont want an original looking column after market is the answer

Re: Crown Vic front end [Re: savoy64] #2589797 12/10/18 12:34 PM 12/10/18 12:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 81 Michigan Truck Y'all ! member
Truck Y'all ! member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 81 Michigan	Here's a pic of the steering shaft we built. Steering shaft - Crown Vic to stock D100 column

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