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65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite #2519303
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putting a bb into a 65 belvedere bench seat with column shift - the trans choice is up in the air.

I do not have a 65 cable shift slip yoke bb trans but have a rebuilt 68 full manual t-flite and new converter on the extra parts shelf.

AA trans lists a conversion kit for 65 column shift to newer torqueflite, not sure if this is the imperial services kit or not but a quick net search shows the imperial services kit has issues.

Does anybody have any experience with these kits to retain the column shift with a newer t-flite?

I know I can install a floor shifter with the newer trans but trying to avoid it.

Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #2519399
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I bought the Imperial Services cable when I went to a newer 727 (sb) in my '65 Belvedere. After a minimal amount of adjustment, I'm very happy with it. One thing I did counter to their instructions was use the later detent ball spring. It's stiffer, making the shifting at the lever feel a little more positive. The only downside was that it took about 6 months for them to ship me the cable kit. Charged my card the day I ordered it, of course.


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Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #2519425
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You may want to do a search on Imperial Services before you order anything from there.

Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: TooMany62s] #2519482
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Originally Posted By TooMany62s
You may want to do a search on Imperial Services before you order anything from there.


which is why, when the time comes to adapt a pushbutton setup to whatever transmission i decide on for my 33 humpback project, i will figure this out on my own instead of ordering a kit. if they can do it, someone else [me ?] can with a little effort.
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Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #2519572
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I have the same issue. Wanting to put a later trans in my 65 so I can use a gear vendors overdrive.

I've heard that Imperial services works with their distributors better than their direct customers so A&A may be a good source for it. If that is in fact who is making it.............

Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #2519596
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If you use the later trans, a 66 column and linkage works great. No aftermarket parts needed. I did this on my 65 bel 2. Even the column wiring is the same.

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Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #2519663
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^^^^^ what I was going to do, but then I found a 65 trans. I would think a 66-69 column would work too, maybe even an a-body one.
Also get the speedo cable off the 66, only mopar one that mates up to later trans and 65 and down speedo. A Camaro cable works too.

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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
^^^^^ what I was going to do, but then I found a 65 trans. I would think a 66-69 column would work too, maybe even an a-body one.
Also get the speedo cable off the 66, only mopar one that mates up to later trans and 65 and down speedo. A Camaro cable works too.


I looked at that option first as well........just my luck, C bodies changed from 65 to 66........

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I put a column out of a 68 Roadrunner into my old 64 Belvedere wagon, to get rid of the typewriter shifter when I went to a later style BB 727. It was about a bolt in.

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thanks all for the info. I am going to see what I come up with at the nats and at least have a chance to talk to the A&A guys.

Can I get a little more info here about using a 1966 mopar or Camaro speedo cable ?

What year Camaro cable is needed and does it require modification ?

thanks

Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: SSAAHemiFan] #2521698
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Originally Posted By SSAAHemiFan
thanks all for the info. I am going to see what I come up with at the nats and at least have a chance to talk to the A&A guys.

Can I get a little more info here about using a 1966 mopar or Camaro speedo cable ?

What year Camaro cable is needed and does it require modification ?

thanks


The '68 Camaro adapts the small speedo head from the early B's to the larger speedo head on the later 727. Length is perfect for an early B and it virtually falls into place.


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Re: 65 b-body colum shift (cable) to 66 and up torqueflite [Re: GY3] #2521850
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Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By SSAAHemiFan
thanks all for the info. I am going to see what I come up with at the nats and at least have a chance to talk to the A&A guys.

Can I get a little more info here about using a 1966 mopar or Camaro speedo cable ?

What year Camaro cable is needed and does it require modification ?

thanks


The '68 Camaro adapts the small speedo head from the early B's to the larger speedo head on the later 727. Length is perfect for an early B and it virtually falls into place.


correct ! this cable fits up to when they went to the white, plastic speedometer end. was that 68 ?
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