Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Crabra]
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What does street outlaws have to do w/ 1/8 mile drag racing? Like I said earlier, 1/8 mile racing has always been big down south and the 1/8 mile headsup stuff was big way before the show came on TV...and they aren't even small tire racers.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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I can't stand 1/8 mile, it's like you are just getting started and it is over. 1 reason is too many people are watching street outlaws. Ya we were real "street Outlaws in the 70's. LOL Me at Nu-Be 001 by John Cadamore, on Flickr
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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I can't stand 1/8 mile, it's like you are just getting started and it is over. 1 reason is too many people are watching street outlaws. Ya we were real "street Outlaws in the 70's. LOL As far back the '80s, the local street race scene had people that raced 1/8 and people that raced 1/4, mostly because of what their local tracks ran. The guys from Manassas and Sumerduck (both 1/8 mile) would occasionally come over to Maryland (all 1/4 mile) and half the argument during the negotiations was what length race to run. The 1/8-mile guys complained their stuff would run out of gear in the 1/4, and the 1/4 guys would complain their "junk" wouldn't show its stuff on a "short track".
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron All the big $ events are 1/8 mile because that's what the people want. The group who prefers 1/4 is getting smaller by the season. With costs where they are, 1/8 is preferred for equipment life and getting large car counts through 8+ rounders. National events will likely be the last to concede...but more people big $ bracket race than go class racing.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron When was the last time NHRA paid $50,000-$100,000 for the winner of a race? That's what the radial 1/8 mile races pay.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Almost weekly bracket races on the east coast in the 20,000.00 range. How much does pro stock pay now and how much does a competitive car cost.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron When was the last time NHRA paid $50,000-$100,000 for the winner of a race? That's what the radial 1/8 mile races pay. Who pays that much to a single winner ? Ron
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron When was the last time NHRA paid $50,000-$100,000 for the winner of a race? That's what the radial 1/8 mile races pay. Who pays that much to a single winner ? Ron March 22-24th the best of the best and the baddest of the bad on small tires will converge at South Georgia Motorsports Park, in Valdosta, Georgia to race for the richest prize in heads-up drag racing, $101,000 to win in the balls-to-the-wall Radial VS the World Class. A race like this could only be put together by the eccentric promoter Donald “Duck” Long, and his Duck-X Productions staff.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron When was the last time NHRA paid $50,000-$100,000 for the winner of a race? That's what the radial 1/8 mile races pay. Who pays that much to a single winner ? Ron http://sfgpromotions.comPretty much every one of their races is $50k a day...in 2019 they offer one with a gaurenteed purse of $500k. Bracket racing, not radial specific. Pretty much anything above a regular points day type event is 1/8 mile only. Only time I really ever do 1/4s is in NSS classes.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron When was the last time NHRA paid $50,000-$100,000 for the winner of a race? That's what the radial 1/8 mile races pay. Who pays that much to a single winner ? Ron http://sfgpromotions.comPretty much every one of their races is $50k a day...in 2019 they offer one with a gaurenteed purse of $500k. Bracket racing, not radial specific. Pretty much anything above a regular points day type event is 1/8 mile only. Only time I really ever do 1/4s is in NSS classes. They really pay the winner 50k ?? What do they charge to get in the race ? I know I am only small time but I have only been around NSS races the last 10 years and see winner payouts from $250 up to about $650 in the ones I have raced in or watched. Course the NSS races run from about $60 dollars to about $175 to enter that I have seen. Ron I do understand fast power adder race cars cost a ton of money to build also.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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Everyone says 1/8 is what all the big money tracks run but I don't see NHRA or IHRA national events running 1/8 mile ? Ron When was the last time NHRA paid $50,000-$100,000 for the winner of a race? That's what the radial 1/8 mile races pay. Who pays that much to a single winner ? Ron http://sfgpromotions.comPretty much every one of their races is $50k a day...in 2019 they offer one with a gaurenteed purse of $500k. Bracket racing, not radial specific. Pretty much anything above a regular points day type event is 1/8 mile only. Only time I really ever do 1/4s is in NSS classes. And open the link and look at those entry fees - and then tell me you could go to race every week!!!! Yea right - not exactly what the weekly or bi weekly racer can afford.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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And open the link and look at those entry fees - and then tell me you could go to race every week!!!! Yea right - not exactly what the weekly or bi weekly racer can afford.
What's the old saying, if you want to dance you have to pay the fiddler. You can't expect to race for $500,000 and only pay a $250 entry fee.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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And open the link and look at those entry fees - and then tell me you could go to race every week!!!! Yea right - not exactly what the weekly or bi weekly racer can afford.
What's the old saying, if you want to dance you have to pay the fiddler. You can't expect to race for $500,000 and only pay a $250 entry fee. I understand that but everyone keeps bringing up the BIG $$$$ races and I would like to know how many of these guys posting here go to these races weekly or bi weekly? I'm sure the guys with deep pockets go often but NOT the guy that wants to race once or twice a month. So yea what I'm saying is like mentioned before it's a fad and when the $$$$ dry up it will be gone.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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And open the link and look at those entry fees - and then tell me you could go to race every week!!!! Yea right - not exactly what the weekly or bi weekly racer can afford.
What's the old saying, if you want to dance you have to pay the fiddler. You can't expect to race for $500,000 and only pay a $250 entry fee. I understand that but everyone keeps bringing up the BIG $$$$ races and I would like to know how many of these guys posting here go to these races weekly or bi weekly? I'm sure the guys with deep pockets go often but NOT the guy that wants to race once or twice a month. So yea what I'm saying is like mentioned before it's a fad and when the $$$$ dry up it will be gone. This type of racing has been going on for at least 9 years, at least the no mercy event has. Stands are at max capacity. SPECTATORS are what makes the track money, NOT racers. How packed are the stands when you race? Do they have to turn people away at the gate, because the track is at max capacity? There is no shortage of money coming in, therefore there’s no shortage going back out. Race one event and win $50,000-100,000 ( plus side bets). How many events would you need to win where the payout is $500-1,000? These events aren’t for the casual racer. These are guys that own shops. Most events the track is open by Tuesday and qualifying is wed/Thursday/Friday. 5-6 classes, with 32 cars each. THAT is where the money comes from.
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Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
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There's usually ATLEAST one small tire 1/8 mile shootout every weekend at one of the MANY tracks within 3 hours drive of my house paying $2k or better to the winner w/ entry fees from $50 on up. So yeah, the big money races are expensive and out of reach for most guys to do very often, but there are plenty of smaller races paying more than what most of you guys are used to happening all the time to keep em busy.
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