Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: 383man]
#2516395
07/02/18 01:36 PM
07/02/18 01:36 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,279 PA.
pittsburghracer
"Little"John
|
"Little"John
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,279
PA.
|
Now go back and reread all the posts so far. Most of the guys that race week after week could really care less whether it’s a 1/8 or 1/4 mile track. The occasional racer that races 3-5 times a year or the rest n tuners prefer 1/4 mile. Heck even in Pa the second track I ever went to (nu-be) was 1/8 mile in the 1970’s and near by Merser was even shorter than 1/8. Competition drives me and I even get a little crazy on go carts and slick tracks in Ocean City.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: B3422W5]
#2516397
07/02/18 01:39 PM
07/02/18 01:39 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,318 State of confusion
Thumperdart
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,318
State of confusion
|
I can understand the drag strips that have been historically 8th mile, due to space. I can get that, and it makes perfect sense.
My issue is 1/4 mile tracks that only race 8th. In order to be successful at 8th, you have to be set up for it. It's best with a light car, real quick reacting and short times. I get that, too.
For me, after almost fifty years of racing with my old Hemi, the day that 8th mile is the only option is the day I park everything. To me, it's half a drag race. Not remotely interested in doing it, and even less interested in watching it. Watching two dragsters race 8th mile is like watching the neighbor paint his house. It's exciting to the guys doing it, but to everyone else it's a big snoozefest. BORING.
If drag racing went to only 1/8 mile i would find a new hobby literally tomorrow. I have had all kinds of different ET cars, and 1/8 mile has never appealed to me. I enjoy the xtra speed and not shifting gears the last half the track. My local track ( US131) has over the last several years went from exclusively 1/4 mile with( a huge shutdown), to about 1/2 the events being on 1/8 mile. I hate it. Fortunately i am older so wont be racing forever. I get there is a core of hard core points chaser types who prefer 1/8 mile. But the bigger majority of people like myself who test and tune and or bracket race but dont chase points due to work requirements, not wanting to sit at the track on a 95 degree day etc, make up a larger amount of people. And..... certainly not all points chaser types prefer 1/8 mile either.... many dont. I have raced points in the past, but sometimes i think peo0le can take this stuff to seriously. Dont get ne wrong, i am ultra competetive, but virtually nobody i have ever met makes a livin at this, its a hobby. As a hobby i prefer the 1/4 mile If/when you start going fast, you may rethink this............ And to answer the original q, some small tire stuff in the last few years are flying and NO WAY in hell would they be stable at over 200 mph in the 1/4..........
Last edited by Thumperdart; 07/02/18 01:40 PM.
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Thumperdart]
#2516423
07/02/18 02:07 PM
07/02/18 02:07 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,804 Portage,michigan
B3422W5
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,804
Portage,michigan
|
I can understand the drag strips that have been historically 8th mile, due to space. I can get that, and it makes perfect sense.
My issue is 1/4 mile tracks that only race 8th. In order to be successful at 8th, you have to be set up for it. It's best with a light car, real quick reacting and short times. I get that, too.
For me, after almost fifty years of racing with my old Hemi, the day that 8th mile is the only option is the day I park everything. To me, it's half a drag race. Not remotely interested in doing it, and even less interested in watching it. Watching two dragsters race 8th mile is like watching the neighbor paint his house. It's exciting to the guys doing it, but to everyone else it's a big snoozefest. BORING.
If drag racing went to only 1/8 mile i would find a new hobby literally tomorrow. I have had all kinds of different ET cars, and 1/8 mile has never appealed to me. I enjoy the xtra speed and not shifting gears the last half the track. My local track ( US131) has over the last several years went from exclusively 1/4 mile with( a huge shutdown), to about 1/2 the events being on 1/8 mile. I hate it. Fortunately i am older so wont be racing forever. I get there is a core of hard core points chaser types who prefer 1/8 mile. But the bigger majority of people like myself who test and tune and or bracket race but dont chase points due to work requirements, not wanting to sit at the track on a 95 degree day etc, make up a larger amount of people. And..... certainly not all points chaser types prefer 1/8 mile either.... many dont. I have raced points in the past, but sometimes i think peo0le can take this stuff to seriously. Dont get ne wrong, i am ultra competetive, but virtually nobody i have ever met makes a livin at this, its a hobby. As a hobby i prefer the 1/4 mile If/when you start going fast, you may rethink this............ And to answer the original q, some small tire stuff in the last few years are flying and NO WAY in hell would they be stable at over 200 mph in the 1/4.......... You forget Dom, i owned a car that runs what your does forever. Hence my screen name on here i have never changed. And i have a much faster motor to install this upcoming offseason than what is in my car currently. Unfortunately most weeks i work 7 days and extra time to fart with stuff is a luxury i seldom have these days. So when i do get out, i like full track racing more than if i could take time off whenever i wanted to( which i used to be able to do... lol)
Last edited by B3422W5; 07/02/18 02:08 PM.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam, footbrake street/strip car
1.41 best 60 foot 6.54 @ 105.20
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Eric]
#2516452
07/02/18 02:46 PM
07/02/18 02:46 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,804 Portage,michigan
B3422W5
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,804
Portage,michigan
|
I find the T&T guys and the guys who race three times a year have issues with 1/8th mile.......The folks who actually spend money at the track don't give a S... Thats not fair Eric. I know you know me. I used to race points at 2 different tracks with my blue Duster. Raced 10.0 index points series for years at Mid Mich Motorplex. And no box points at US131. You helped me about 5 rounds-in with a charging problem at Norwalk few years back one night. You and 440 Jim..... lol Back then i had the time to do it. Now a days i dont. Would love to be independently wealthy and be able to be at a track all the time. But spending most all my spare money racing back then is a good reason i cant now. I own a successful business now and can afford to race all i want, but am saving for a nice retirement, zero, zilch has changed with me. Liked 1/4 back when i raced constantly( and won a few races) and like 1/4 now when i cant get out as much. Trust me, ask anybody who knows me, i get just as pissed now when i lose as i ever have. I hang out with 5 or 6 guys with Mopar race cars here locally. All are like me, little older, love to race every chance they can, but life’s priorities dont allow it. All of us will be at Norwalk, and i sponsor a race. And every one of us like 1/4 mile WAY better. There are plenty of competetive guys who feel the exact same way. Oh, and i spend plenty of money at the track spectating. Bracket races here start at 8 on Saturday mornings. I dont get out of work till 2, and Saturday is a busy day for us( own a car dealership)..... but often times am up at the track after work watching...... one of the pitiful few who do.
Last edited by B3422W5; 07/02/18 02:49 PM.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam, footbrake street/strip car
1.41 best 60 foot 6.54 @ 105.20
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Crabra]
#2516457
07/02/18 02:55 PM
07/02/18 02:55 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,585 Fulton County, PA
CMcAllister
Mr. Helpful
|
Mr. Helpful
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,585
Fulton County, PA
|
THEY are serious bracket racers and the tracks that they frequent. All the big money events are run 1/8 mile. Local tracks here often run Super Pro on the 1/8 and everyone else 1/4. PDRA is 1/8. No lack of excitement there. I've always run 1/4 mile NHRA stuff. Some of what we did was on the 1/8. Kind of hard to run both with one car and jump back and forth. So, 1/8 has become the standard it seems.
Frankly, I'm glad there's choices. More tracks, more racers spending money and paying bills, more options for every level of racer. A number of things I'd like to be involved in, and plenty of stuff I have no interest in, but I'm glad that someone is and they're participating. Why are we complaining about having options? You should be glad - and hoping some of these kids put down their phone and take an interest in some of them.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: B3422W5]
#2516471
07/02/18 03:40 PM
07/02/18 03:40 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,422 Pittsburgh PA
Eric
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,422
Pittsburgh PA
|
I find the T&T guys and the guys who race three times a year have issues with 1/8th mile.......The folks who actually spend money at the track don't give a S... Thats not fair Eric. I know you know me. I used to race points at 2 different tracks with my blue Duster. Raced 10.0 index points series for years at Mid Mich Motorplex. And no box points at US131. You helped me about 5 rounds-in with a charging problem at Norwalk few years back one night. You and 440 Jim..... lol Back then i had the time to do it. Now a days i dont. Would love to be independently wealthy and be able to be at a track all the time. But spending most all my spare money racing back then is a good reason i cant now. I own a successful business now and can afford to race all i want, but am saving for a nice retirement, zero, zilch has changed with me. Liked 1/4 back when i raced constantly( and won a few races) and like 1/4 now when i cant get out as much. Trust me, ask anybody who knows me, i get just as pissed now when i lose as i ever have. I hang out with 5 or 6 guys with Mopar race cars here locally. All are like me, little older, love to race every chance they can, but life’s priorities dont allow it. All of us will be at Norwalk, and i sponsor a race. And every one of us like 1/4 mile WAY better. There are plenty of competetive guys who feel the exact same way. Oh, and i spend plenty of money at the track spectating. Bracket races here start at 8 on Saturday mornings. I dont get out of work till 2, and Saturday is a busy day for us( own a car dealership)..... but often times am up at the track after work watching...... one of the pitiful few who do. Don...I'm busting balls but it does have a ring of truth. I don't deny the passion of every racer....but...the tides are rolling toward 1/8th mile...rather than protest why not embrace it like John (Pittsburgracer) ? Personally my car will run either with no issues but if I have a choice I would rather not beat on it if I can. And as stated previously all the big money stuff is 1/8th anyway.
5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Eric]
#2516477
07/02/18 04:03 PM
07/02/18 04:03 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,804 Portage,michigan
B3422W5
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,804
Portage,michigan
|
I find the T&T guys and the guys who race three times a year have issues with 1/8th mile.......The folks who actually spend money at the track don't give a S... Thats not fair Eric. I know you know me. I used to race points at 2 different tracks with my blue Duster. Raced 10.0 index points series for years at Mid Mich Motorplex. And no box points at US131. You helped me about 5 rounds-in with a charging problem at Norwalk few years back one night. You and 440 Jim..... lol Back then i had the time to do it. Now a days i dont. Would love to be independently wealthy and be able to be at a track all the time. But spending most all my spare money racing back then is a good reason i cant now. I own a successful business now and can afford to race all i want, but am saving for a nice retirement, zero, zilch has changed with me. Liked 1/4 back when i raced constantly( and won a few races) and like 1/4 now when i cant get out as much. Trust me, ask anybody who knows me, i get just as pissed now when i lose as i ever have. I hang out with 5 or 6 guys with Mopar race cars here locally. All are like me, little older, love to race every chance they can, but life’s priorities dont allow it. All of us will be at Norwalk, and i sponsor a race. And every one of us like 1/4 mile WAY better. There are plenty of competetive guys who feel the exact same way. Oh, and i spend plenty of money at the track spectating. Bracket races here start at 8 on Saturday mornings. I dont get out of work till 2, and Saturday is a busy day for us( own a car dealership)..... but often times am up at the track after work watching...... one of the pitiful few who do. Don...I'm busting balls but it does have a ring of truth. I don't deny the passion of every racer....but...the tides are rolling toward 1/8th mile...rather than protest why not embrace it like John (Pittsburgracer) ? Personally my car will run either with no issues but if I have a choice I would rather not beat on it if I can. And as stated previously all the big money stuff is 1/8th anyway. I hear ya about the big money stuff. But even the majority of weekly points racers arent in the league of guys who win that stuff. That Matt Daddis( sp) guy was at the 50/125/50 race at 131 little while back. They raced for 6 k on Wed, 20k on Thursday, then the big money over the weekend. I watched a lot of it. Even a guy of his caliber, dont think he made it past 4 rounds any day, and less most of the time. Results are posted on 131 website So the fact they run those “ business” type races on 1/8 means nothing to me. At my best years ago, i was never in that class. Guys with multiple entry’s yada, yada. That is guys shellout out several thousand bucks because they think they can beat guys like Folk and those others. Those weekends i am out on my boat after work taking a nice refreshing dip.... lol
Last edited by B3422W5; 07/02/18 04:04 PM.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam, footbrake street/strip car
1.41 best 60 foot 6.54 @ 105.20
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: Crabra]
#2516487
07/02/18 04:22 PM
07/02/18 04:22 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 258 Cochise Co, Az, From Detroit
moetown
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 258
Cochise Co, Az, From Detroit
|
The bottom line is: I will race 1/8 or 1/4 bracket races as long as they pay green money. I prefer 1/4. This assumes I ever finish my car. I would not pay to watch an 1/8 mile bracket race. 1/8 and 1/4 mile heads up races are some of the most exciting racing available. I go to as many as I can, and watch the rest on the internet when available.
|
|
|
Re: 1/8 mile vs.1/4
[Re: B3422W5]
#2516503
07/02/18 04:57 PM
07/02/18 04:57 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 310 Michigan
412 SB Duster
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 310
Michigan
|
I find the T&T guys and the guys who race three times a year have issues with 1/8th mile.......The folks who actually spend money at the track don't give a S... Thats not fair Eric. I know you know me. I used to race points at 2 different tracks with my blue Duster. Raced 10.0 index points series for years at Mid Mich Motorplex. And no box points at US131. You helped me about 5 rounds-in with a charging problem at Norwalk few years back one night. You and 440 Jim..... lol Back then i had the time to do it. Now a days i dont. Would love to be independently wealthy and be able to be at a track all the time. But spending most all my spare money racing back then is a good reason i cant now. I own a successful business now and can afford to race all i want, but am saving for a nice retirement, zero, zilch has changed with me. Liked 1/4 back when i raced constantly( and won a few races) and like 1/4 now when i cant get out as much. Trust me, ask anybody who knows me, i get just as pissed now when i lose as i ever have. I hang out with 5 or 6 guys with Mopar race cars here locally. All are like me, little older, love to race every chance they can, but life’s priorities dont allow it. All of us will be at Norwalk, and i sponsor a race. And every one of us like 1/4 mile WAY better. There are plenty of competetive guys who feel the exact same way. Oh, and i spend plenty of money at the track spectating. Bracket races here start at 8 on Saturday mornings. I dont get out of work till 2, and Saturday is a busy day for us( own a car dealership)..... but often times am up at the track after work watching...... one of the pitiful few who do. Don...I'm busting balls but it does have a ring of truth. I don't deny the passion of every racer....but...the tides are rolling toward 1/8th mile...rather than protest why not embrace it like John (Pittsburgracer) ? Personally my car will run either with no issues but if I have a choice I would rather not beat on it if I can. And as stated previously all the big money stuff is 1/8th anyway. I hear ya about the big money stuff. But even the majority of weekly points racers arent in the league of guys who win that stuff. That Matt Daddis( sp) guy was at the 50/125/50 race at 131 little while back. They raced for 6 k on Wed, 20k on Thursday, then the big money over the weekend. I watched a lot of it. Even a guy of his caliber, dont think he made it past 4 rounds any day, and less most of the time. Results are posted on 131 website So the fact they run those “ business” type races on 1/8 means nothing to me. At my best years ago, i was never in that class. Guys with multiple entry’s yada, yada. That is guys shellout out several thousand bucks because they think they can beat guys like Folk and those others. Those weekends i am out on my boat after work taking a nice refreshing dip.... lol Don just to clarify one of the locals won the 125K on Saturday and another lost at 3 cars. We had locals in deep on friday and sunday also. The race was well supported by the locals. Al
|
|
|
|
|