Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2513050
06/25/18 01:50 PM
06/25/18 01:50 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,530 Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,530
Marion, South Carolina [><]
|
Forgot to mention, but I'm pretty sure mine were set up w/ .0015" intake and close to .002" exhaust stem clearances w/ the std. 5/16" valves.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2513749
06/27/18 12:07 AM
06/27/18 12:07 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,882 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,882
Bend,OR USA
|
The piston alloy(4032 for street motors, not 2618 ) will determine what clearances are needed, any GOOD brand of forged pistons and a good set, not a cheap rebuilder set of 1/16,1/16 3/16 (standard tension oil rings) size file to fit moly rings should work real well, I shoot for .0045 per inch of bore size(.0045 X 4.310= .01935 end gap, round it up to .020) tight and .0050 per inch on the second ring and go have some tire smoking fun , not oil smoking fun I do have the machine shop hone all my blocks with a torque plate and the type of head gasket the motor will run and add .0005 additional piston to wall clearances for all my street and strip or bracket race only motors
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2513925
06/27/18 01:23 PM
06/27/18 01:23 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,882 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,882
Bend,OR USA
|
Some of the after market company don't offer that tight clearance 4032 alloy Ross being one of them JE,SRP and Diamond as well as probably several other do offer any of their custom piston in either alloy JE doesn't own that alloy, the foundries make the piston blanks and the piston makers finish them
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2513998
06/27/18 03:36 PM
06/27/18 03:36 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,530 Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,530
Marion, South Carolina [><]
|
My pistons are Diamonds using the typical 1/16", 1/16", 3/16" ring pack. Have been using Total Seal plasma moly rings, not gapless. I'll be switching to whatever ring Diamond recommends me to run for nitrous.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2514039
06/27/18 04:46 PM
06/27/18 04:46 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,491 Kalispell Mt.
HotRodDave
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,491
Kalispell Mt.
|
I like tighter piston clearance for noise reduction but once the negine is warmed the higher expansion alloys are supposed to be just as tight as the low expansion ones. Unless you have a really loose piston to wall clearance I dont think it would make it use a bunch of oil unless you had an insuficent ring and bore finish combo.
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2514917
06/29/18 12:37 PM
06/29/18 12:37 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,882 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,882
Bend,OR USA
|
4.360 That is .040 above the stock 440 4.320 bore size Make sure that you get the ring size correct for your application and that those rings are in stock
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: Hemi ragtop]
#2515141
06/29/18 11:10 PM
06/29/18 11:10 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,821 Moved to N.E. Tennessee
GomangoCuda
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,821
Moved to N.E. Tennessee
|
I plan on doing whatever it takes to make the bores straight and true. If it has to be bored to do this, what is the next available ring/piston size above 4.350? What block are you using? If that is a stock Hemi block then 4.35 is already too big and could be part of your problem.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
|
|
|
Re: Tighten up a street driven HEMI (long?)
[Re: GomangoCuda]
#2516261
07/02/18 06:55 AM
07/02/18 06:55 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 984 Tennessee
Hemi ragtop
OP
super stock
|
OP
super stock
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 984
Tennessee
|
I plan on doing whatever it takes to make the bores straight and true. If it has to be bored to do this, what is the next available ring/piston size above 4.350? What block are you using? If that is a stock Hemi block then 4.35 is already too big and could be part of your problem. It is a siamease bore Mega block
|
|
|
|
|