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Garage lighting #2511779
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When I had my garage built I installed fifteen 4' dual bulb florescent lights. I have had nothing but grief with these lights over the years (only one bulb working, flickering, etc.) and I have finally had enough. It's time to get something new. I'll admit when I bought the current lights I went with low cost fixtures from Home Depot but at the time that was all I could afford. So anyway, I would appreciate some recommendations on what are good reliable lighting fixtures to consider as replacements. Thanks,

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511784
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Originally Posted By 440mopar
When I had my garage built I installed fifteen 4' dual bulb florescent lights. I have had nothing but grief with these lights over the years (only one bulb working, flickering, etc.) and I have finally had enough. It's time to get something new. I'll admit when I bought the current lights I went with low cost fixtures from Home Depot but at the time that was all I could afford. So anyway, I would appreciate some recommendations on what are good reliable lighting fixtures to consider as replacements. Thanks,


I just went thru the same problems with mine. I went to Wally World earlier this week. I bought two LED 4' fixtures. They have a 3200 lumen for 20.00, or a 5000 lumen w/ a pull-chain for 22.00. I went with the 5000's. Lights up my garage like aircraft landing lights.

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511794
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I like these. You can hard wire them or use a cord.
LED Lights

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511810
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Same here. As the fluorescents die off, I'm replacing with LEDs.

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511817
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Here too. Love the led lighting because spreads out a lot more and is brighter.

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511830
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If you already have the fluorescent fixtures, bi-pin or mono-pin, it's cheaper to just buy the LED tubes, toss the ballasts and rewire the fixture.

Quantities of 4' bi-pin LED tubes can be found cheap on e-bay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-4FT-LED-Lig...ot/292363963489


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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511852
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I have 3 standard 100W light bulbs in my 24x24 garage, is that good enough?

I need a little more light but, some of these new LED or even the T8 bulbs and the like pierce through my retinas. I think it's just me though but man, these new lights kill my eyes and are way over kill in my opinion.

I'm close to adding onto my garage and I think I might add maybe 4 at the max LED 4ft lights in my existing space. I may even just add two and see how it works for me and go from there.

Re: Garage lighting [Re: parksr5] #2511876
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LED's come in different brightness expressed as "color temperature" and either clear or frosted lenses.

Clear lenses and higher color temperatures can be hard on the eyes depending on the surroundings.

I have 8' LED's with frosted lenses and a 4000K color temperature in my shop and it's a lot brighter than flourescents but not offensive.


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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511888
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I originally installed 15 100W incandescent bulbs in my 24 x 36 shop. The whole shop is painted white so it was "bright enough". I wanted a bit more so I installed 9 8' florescent fixtures with 4 bulbs each. They're the thinner bulbs and I've had only one bulb burn out in about 5 years. LEDs weren't popular or cheap back then but if I were doing it now I'd definitely go with LEDs. I recently installed a large LED "button" in our kitchen and its like daylight in there. I would consider installing those instead of long florescent-style fixtures if I ever did it again. They're basically a "throw away" fixture and the warranty is something like ten years !!

Re: Garage lighting [Re: John_Kunkel] #2511894
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Originally Posted By John_Kunkel
LED's come in different brightness expressed as "color temperature" and either clear or frosted lenses.

Clear lenses and higher color temperatures can be hard on the eyes depending on the surroundings.

I have 8' LED's with frosted lenses and a 4000K color temperature in my shop and it's a lot brighter than flourescents but not offensive.




Personally I like the high intensity bright/white retna burning LED's when I'm doing detailed/assembly work/painting/etc...when I don't need them in retna burning mode, I have them wired to a Lutron toggle dimmer slide switch so they can go into any mode from nightlight up to full retna burners if need be....

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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511934
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Nothing but LEDs in my garage and they work excellent. They also don't care about cold temps like floros do.


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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2511975
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Several months ago I found these at Home Depot
https://www.homedepot.com/p/TOGGLED-48-i...50310/300617201

They come in a few different flavors. I like the extreme bright 5k kelvin and the lumens per watt efficiency is very good. So far I have replaced almost all of the T-12 tubes on the property except for a couple that are hard to get to and I have nothing bad to say about them other than Toggled really needs to advertise these things better.

For $30 you can retrofit one shop light fixture and cut electricity use by 50%

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 135sohc] #2512100
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i recently replaced 12, 4ft-4 tube florescent fixtures with 12, 2 tube 5K led's in my 24x32 main garage. man, those are like daylight plus ! my old eyeballs can SEE now ! boogie i gutted the old 4 tube tin work and screwed the led's to that. made the light reflect a little more from the white tin, and easier to mount the 2 tube fixtures. they are hard wired to the existing switches so i can control what lights are on. when i get into rearranging the garage addition, i'm doing it again ! the addition is 14x30.
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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2512139
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Oh a related note if some of you you have the latest generation of garage door openers in your garage take into consideration that "SOME" LED bulbs will play havoc with the range of the transmitters. if you have problems like that just go back to CFLs or Incandescent.

Stu

Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2512190
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Quote:
Several months ago I found these at Home Depot
https://www.homedepot.com/p/TOGGLED-48-i...50310/300617201

They come in a few different flavors. I like the extreme bright 5k kelvin and the lumens per watt efficiency is very good. So far I have replaced almost all of the T-12 tubes on the property except for a couple that are hard to get to and I have nothing bad to say about them other than Toggled really needs to advertise these things better.

For $30 you can retrofit one shop light fixture and cut electricity use by 50%


When a bulb cost $15 a pop and cuts costs by 50% it would take 10 years before it paid for itself. I don't consider that a good investment. Maybe in a commercial environment where they're on for 8 or more hours a day but in the average guy's shop - I don't think so.

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Originally Posted By Stanton
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Several months ago I found these at Home Depot
https://www.homedepot.com/p/TOGGLED-48-i...50310/300617201

They come in a few different flavors. I like the extreme bright 5k kelvin and the lumens per watt efficiency is very good. So far I have replaced almost all of the T-12 tubes on the property except for a couple that are hard to get to and I have nothing bad to say about them other than Toggled really needs to advertise these things better.

For $30 you can retrofit one shop light fixture and cut electricity use by 50%


When a bulb cost $15 a pop and cuts costs by 50% it would take 10 years before it paid for itself. I don't consider that a good investment. Maybe in a commercial environment where they're on for 8 or more hours a day but in the average guy's shop - I don't think so.


You are not taking into account how many old school bulbs will burn out and be replaced in that time frame. A quick look shows that LED bulbs can last 3x as long as fluorescent ones. That difference right there covers the cost of buying LED, the energy savings is gravy.


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Originally Posted By Stanton
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Several months ago I found these at Home Depot
https://www.homedepot.com/p/TOGGLED-48-i...50310/300617201

They come in a few different flavors. I like the extreme bright 5k kelvin and the lumens per watt efficiency is very good. So far I have replaced almost all of the T-12 tubes on the property except for a couple that are hard to get to and I have nothing bad to say about them other than Toggled really needs to advertise these things better.

For $30 you can retrofit one shop light fixture and cut electricity use by 50%


When a bulb cost $15 a pop and cuts costs by 50% it would take 10 years before it paid for itself. I don't consider that a good investment. Maybe in a commercial environment where they're on for 8 or more hours a day but in the average guy's shop - I don't think so.



Your not out in your garage 8 hrs a day?, I live in my garage more than the house

Re: Garage lighting [Re: DAYCLONA] #2512269
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By Stanton
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Several months ago I found these at Home Depot
https://www.homedepot.com/p/TOGGLED-48-i...50310/300617201

They come in a few different flavors. I like the extreme bright 5k kelvin and the lumens per watt efficiency is very good. So far I have replaced almost all of the T-12 tubes on the property except for a couple that are hard to get to and I have nothing bad to say about them other than Toggled really needs to advertise these things better.

For $30 you can retrofit one shop light fixture and cut electricity use by 50%


When a bulb cost $15 a pop and cuts costs by 50% it would take 10 years before it paid for itself. I don't consider that a good investment. Maybe in a commercial environment where they're on for 8 or more hours a day but in the average guy's shop - I don't think so.



Your not out in your garage 8 hrs a day?, I live in my garage more than the house
What's this 'house'?


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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2512274
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Fluorescent bulbs die quicker in short term on/off use than just being left on. Which only lessens the pay back time.


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Re: Garage lighting [Re: 440mopar] #2512281
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I'd like to see the wiring schematic for getting rid of the ballast, just to be sure about that. I like the bulbs Kunkel posted, and would like to do that upgrade.

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