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Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: BSB67] #2612022 01/25/19 01:10 PM 01/25/19 01:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL TonyS451 OP master
TonyS451 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL	Originally Posted By BSB67 Originally Posted By TonyS451 Old - Hydraulic ft: 240/246@.050, .507/.510, 110lsa New - Solid ft - 248/252@.050, .538/.544, 110lsa So, not a ton different, but should make more power and take better advantage of the TF 240's. Factoring in lash, they look almost identical. I too would always lean toward a soild. yeah, I like solids too. After having to replace 2 hydraulic rollers in my last engine, and never having an issue w 3 previous engines that had solid FT's, I decided to go w the solid. Also a change from my previous self, I asked for the size smaller than the original cam recommendation. Formerly, would have asked for the next size up . I've definitely gone soft. 2 kids and a dog

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: BradH] #2612023 01/25/19 01:12 PM 01/25/19 01:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL TonyS451 OP master
TonyS451 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL	Originally Posted By BradH Originally Posted By TonyS451 Also, picked up a sweet 950 carb from BradH (to replace the 830 QF elec choke carb). Brads carb looks amazing and nicely baselined for my combo. He also Included a detailed build sheet and even some extras for tuning. He knows his stuff! Thanks, but please hold off on the praise until you're happy with how it's working. Fair enough. So far you're 10 for 10 in 2 of the 3 categories 2 kids and a dog

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2612085 01/25/19 03:06 PM 01/25/19 03:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,836 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,836 S.E. Michigan	Cool, a little progress. That's sort of a race carburetor isn't it? (Edited my signature to reflect the sentiment posted earlier) Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2612226 01/25/19 07:40 PM 01/25/19 07:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Originally Posted By TonyS451 Originally Posted By BradH Originally Posted By TonyS451 Also, picked up a sweet 950 carb from BradH (to replace the 830 QF elec choke carb). Brads carb looks amazing and nicely baselined for my combo. He also Included a detailed build sheet and even some extras for tuning. He knows his stuff! Thanks, but please hold off on the praise until you're happy with how it's working. Fair enough. So far you're 10 for 10 in 2 of the 3 categories Hmmmm... Bang for the buck = 10 Shiny factor = 10 Performance = TBD

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: BradH] #2612546 01/26/19 01:51 PM 01/26/19 01:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL TonyS451 OP master
TonyS451 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL	Originally Posted By BradH Originally Posted By TonyS451 Originally Posted By BradH Originally Posted By TonyS451 Also, picked up a sweet 950 carb from BradH (to replace the 830 QF elec choke carb). Brads carb looks amazing and nicely baselined for my combo. He also Included a detailed build sheet and even some extras for tuning. He knows his stuff! Thanks, but please hold off on the praise until you're happy with how it's working. Fair enough. So far you're 10 for 10 in 2 of the 3 categories Hmmmm... Bang for the buck = 10 Shiny factor = 10 Performance = TBD Actually, I guess you're 3 for 4 then. I'll rate you a 10 in customer service as well. 2 kids and a dog

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2612558 01/26/19 02:10 PM 01/26/19 02:10 PM
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fast68plymouth I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,491 So. Burlington, Vt.	I thought the shiny/billet factor counted twice. 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: fast68plymouth] #2612599 01/26/19 03:17 PM 01/26/19 03:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	I forgot, Shiny and Billet are two separate scoring categories... silly me.

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: BradH] #2634439 03/19/19 02:08 PM 03/19/19 02:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL TonyS451 OP master
TonyS451 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL	Finished the trick flow 240 and cam swap and so far I am extremely happy. No dyno numbers but mash the pedal and smiles appear . Still need to try out my new Brad H carb, but also need to install some stickier tires. I'll try to upload a vid clip as well. Love the sound w/ the new comp cam solid. All in all, I am happy I made the changes. 2 kids and a dog

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634444 03/19/19 02:11 PM 03/19/19 02:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,836 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,836 S.E. Michigan	Great update, looks fantastic. Looking forward to the video. Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: ZIPPY] #2634448 03/19/19 02:20 PM 03/19/19 02:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL TonyS451 OP master
TonyS451 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL	Originally Posted by ZIPPY Great update, looks fantastic. Looking forward to the video. yeah, never posted a video and not really sure how.. I tried uploading on photobucket and it keeps failing. I suppose I could figure out youtube like the billions of other people 2 kids and a dog

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634526 03/19/19 06:55 PM 03/19/19 06:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon	Just upload to YouTube and then copy the link here and it will work. Have some 8 year old kid in the neighborhood show you how to upload to YouTube!

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634548 03/19/19 07:48 PM 03/19/19 07:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Originally Posted by TonyS451 Finished the trick flow 240 and cam swap and so far I am extremely happy. No dyno numbers but mash the pedal and smiles appear . Still need to try out my new Brad H carb, but also need to install some stickier tires. I'll try to upload a vid clip as well. Love the sound w/ the new comp cam solid. All in all, I am happy I made the changes. I was hoping to hear you were running the new carb already... Looks sweet, regardless.

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: BradH] #2634562 03/19/19 08:07 PM 03/19/19 08:07 PM
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Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: AndyF] #2634569 03/19/19 08:32 PM 03/19/19 08:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL TonyS451 OP master
TonyS451 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,296 Chicago, IL	Originally Posted by AndyF Just upload to YouTube and then copy the link here and it will work. Have some 8 year old kid in the neighborhood show you how to upload to YouTube! Ok turns out I'm as smart as an 8 year old . Here's a little comparo of the 2 combos. 505 w TF 240s and comp 248@.050 solid ft https://youtu.be/YaUWBji1674 505 w stealths and comp xe 284 240@.050 hydraulic ft https://youtu.be/6bj5dsdibzI Last edited by TonyS451; 03/19/19 09:53 PM. 2 kids and a dog

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634589 03/19/19 09:05 PM 03/19/19 09:05 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,310 Prospect, PA	very nice.

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634610 03/19/19 09:41 PM 03/19/19 09:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon	I know you cheated. I saw a second grader sitting at your computer earlier. On a somewhat related note, I've dyno tested two 500 inch Mopar big blocks this week with Trick Flow 240 heads and hyd roller cams. Both engines required a bunch of fuel and timing at cruise to keep from burning up the exhaust. The big problem was right around 2000 rpm with a slight load. Roughly equal to driving down a flat freeway at 70 mph. The tune file that was working in my Coronet last summer would not work in either of these engines. The EGTs would go skyhigh and the engine would shut down. We ended up adding a bunch of timing (35 to 40 degrees) and adding some fuel and then they were happy. I do not know what is going on but I suspect it has to do with how well the Trick Flow 240 heads flow at low lift. Perhaps the intake charge is getting sucked into the exhaust or something like that. Anyway, just keep an eye on your engine if you are out cruising on the freeway. Your carb might fat enough already but I really doubt you have much ignition advance at 2000 rpm since you don't have vacuum advance on that MSD. So you are probably running low to mid 30's and you don't have any way to get more advance than that.

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634622 03/19/19 10:13 PM 03/19/19 10:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas K krautrock top fuel
krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	Originally Posted by TonyS451 Originally Posted by AndyF Just upload to YouTube and then copy the link here and it will work. Have some 8 year old kid in the neighborhood show you how to upload to YouTube! Ok turns out I'm as smart as an 8 year old . Here's a little comparo of the 2 combos. 505 w TF 240s and comp 248@.050 solid ft https://youtu.be/YaUWBji1674 505 w stealths and comp xe 284 240@.050 hydraulic ft https://youtu.be/6bj5dsdibzI i think the tf240 with the solid cam sounds better...

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: AndyF] #2634623 03/19/19 10:14 PM 03/19/19 10:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas K krautrock top fuel
krautrock top fuel K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,094 central texas	Originally Posted by AndyF I know you cheated. I saw a second grader sitting at your computer earlier. On a somewhat related note, I've dyno tested two 500 inch Mopar big blocks this week with Trick Flow 240 heads and hyd roller cams. Both engines required a bunch of fuel and timing at cruise to keep from burning up the exhaust. The big problem was right around 2000 rpm with a slight load. Roughly equal to driving down a flat freeway at 70 mph. The tune file that was working in my Coronet last summer would not work in either of these engines. The EGTs would go skyhigh and the engine would shut down. We ended up adding a bunch of timing (35 to 40 degrees) and adding some fuel and then they were happy. I do not know what is going on but I suspect it has to do with how well the Trick Flow 240 heads flow at low lift. Perhaps the intake charge is getting sucked into the exhaust or something like that. Anyway, just keep an eye on your engine if you are out cruising on the freeway. Your carb might fat enough already but I really doubt you have much ignition advance at 2000 rpm since you don't have vacuum advance on that MSD. So you are probably running low to mid 30's and you don't have any way to get more advance than that. would spreading the LSA on the cam help with that cruise quirk??

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: krautrock] #2634724 03/20/19 09:54 AM 03/20/19 09:54 AM
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fast68plymouth I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,491 So. Burlington, Vt.	Sounds great Tony!! Looks great too........ luv the painted wheels on it!! 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: BB Street heads for mild 505 [Re: TonyS451] #2634750 03/20/19 10:58 AM 03/20/19 10:58 AM
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MarkZ Worthy Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,404 Michigan	Originally Posted by TonyS451 Originally Posted by AndyF Just upload to YouTube and then copy the link here and it will work. Have some 8 year old kid in the neighborhood show you how to upload to YouTube! Ok turns out I'm as smart as an 8 year old . Here's a little comparo of the 2 combos. 505 w TF 240s and comp 248@.050 solid ft https://youtu.be/YaUWBji1674 505 w stealths and comp xe 284 240@.050 hydraulic ft https://youtu.be/6bj5dsdibzI Absolutely bad ass. I love the exhaust note. 1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60

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