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He bought it to beat on it ---local car collector #2497118
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he has several Mopars in his collection

I think it went 10.87 , traction /driving slowed it down

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I wouldn't be happy if I spent that kind of money and was running mid 10s after all the 9.60 hype these things got when they were being built.

Saw one at Rockingham at the Mopar show earlier this year that was running 10.40s...not spinning and in really good air.

Props to the owner of the car in this post though. up Nice to see someone actually beating on it like it was meant to be instead of having a garage ornament to brag about.
Have a friend of mine looking to buy one now to do just that...park it and talk about how badass it is. He has the money though so...

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Re: He bought it to beat on it ---local car collector [Re: bigdad] #2497130
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I think it takes some experience and finesse to get them to run fast as advertised


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Rons has gone 9.63. He’s been racing it since he bought it. Even has a vid driving it in the rain down the freeway. Checkout his FB page SRT Demon. Btw...... LOVE that green color!!!

FWIW the pompous ### that bought the one where I work had it put on the alignment rack so he could clean the underside.....

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Most of the test n tuners going fast have made some mods and race at super tracks on great weather days. Experience comes into play too.


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Re: He bought it to beat on it ---local car collector [Re: bigdad] #2497217
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Originally Posted By bigdad
I think it takes some experience and finesse to get them to run fast as advertised


Late model Challengers are a [censored] to get to hook anyway. drive


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One thing that sticks out is most of the cars you see run on youtube have a note on the bottom that says that the transbrake and torque reserve weren't used, I think tractions the main problem. I'm guessing the 9.65 was mineshaft air, unheard of track prep and every doodad and gadet used.

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I asked him if he was going to use it like it was meant to be used. He said all his cars get driven and used but he still takes very good care of them. Of the 3 that got shipped to Sioux Falls his will be used and enjoyed. Not sure how much seat time he had in the car prior or how much seat time he has at the track but like I told him a big thumbs up to using it and enjoying it. I know the Motor Market local car magazine will be doing a story on the car and his hemi dart too.


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Those cars need to time out before they are allowed to go full power. The ecu is programmed to keep the power limited for it’s break in period.


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He told me he was bringing the Hemi Dart out next week to beat on


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You can't blame chrysler for the guys not running the number when they are not operating in the correct conditions and using the proper established method with the line lock, trans brake, 100 octane fuel, computer, tires, well prepped track, decent air, drive it enough to get it broke in... if they are not doing all the stuff perscribed there should be no belly aching about not running the numbers. From what I have seen the only ones doing EVERYTHING they are supposed to are actually getting close to 9.6 ETs. Try foot braking it or running 93 octane, or leave the big drag radials on the front and it is going to slow it down


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Originally Posted By J_BODY
Rons has gone 9.63. He’s been racing it since he bought it. Even has a vid driving it in the rain down the freeway. Checkout his FB page SRT Demon. Btw...... LOVE that green color!!!

FWIW the pompous ### that bought the one where I work had it put on the alignment rack so he could clean the underside.....


do you have a link to his page ? I looked & could not locate it. Thanks Charlie


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Thunder Valley Dragway, isn't exactly known as the place to run personal bests. I'd be curious to know what one of those cars would run on a decent track, with a set of bias ply slicks. Trying to get the car down a marginal track with Drag radials is completely different.


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Agree JBody, love that color of green. Wish it had been available when I purchased mine. If so I may of still owned a Challenger.


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Originally Posted By csk
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Rons has gone 9.63. He’s been racing it since he bought it. Even has a vid driving it in the rain down the freeway. Checkout his FB page SRT Demon. Btw...... LOVE that green color!!!

FWIW the pompous ### that bought the one where I work had it put on the alignment rack so he could clean the underside.....


do you have a link to his page ? I looked & could not locate it. Thanks Charlie


Couldn’t link on my iPad for some reason.... search “SRT DEMON” all caps. His page has the black Demon logo and a side shot of his red car.

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Fast, heavy, nice driving car that the tin wont fall apart on the first highway pothole. it aint 1982 anymore.

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Originally Posted By csk
Originally Posted By J_BODY
Rons has gone 9.63. He’s been racing it since he bought it. Even has a vid driving it in the rain down the freeway. Checkout his FB page SRT Demon. Btw...... LOVE that green color!!!

FWIW the pompous ### that bought the one where I work had it put on the alignment rack so he could clean the underside.....


do you have a link to his page ? I looked & could not locate it. Thanks Charlie



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His friend owns a chain of C-store's locally

They put a VP pump in with 101 no lead on his suggestion that more of these type cars will need it

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Originally Posted By Hot 340
Fast, heavy, nice driving car that the tin wont fall apart on the first highway pothole. it aint 1982 anymore.


When you can walk into any dealership and drive out in a daily driver car with at least 500 horsepower, it's a great time to be a car guy. boogie


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Guy pitted next to me last weekend with a Hellcat. Stock except tires and tune. Saw him run 10.09@140.
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Yup all junk cars. Need to go back to 4 cylinder front drive. Back to the hay days of better cars.
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9.60 with a stock! Street legal car with all the comforts you can have.
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That is amazing that modern stock vehicles are that fast. But they're not inexpensive and "any fool can write a check". I find satisfaction in building a car myself, not just stomping on the pedal smile

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Hi all,

I am the son of the owner of the Demon in question. That was the first time out to the track with the car on the first day Thunder Valley was open (horrendous DA). We were using the upgraded parts from the Demon crate including the high octane fuel system and skinny front tires (the factory-stock Nittos on the rear were less than desirable for good traction and we have since moved to using Hoosiers). The car was broken in, but Demon owners are constantly running better times as their cars get more use. We have since gotten the car to run a 10.01 @ 135.79 (1.39 60 foot time) with a DA of 1000 (This time has been recognized as the 7th fastest pass by any STOCK Demon). To those of you criticizing the cars for not running the advertised 9.65, that pass was under PERFECT conditions. I believe the DA was around -1500 when that pass was made. That car also was the most stripped down model with only one seat, no extra sound system, nor the upgraded leather package. Our Demon came more heavily optioned as we did not think we would enjoy racing it as much. Thanks for your time!

PS- Our original 1968 Super Stock Hemi Dart has made it to Thunder Valley since this post was made. We have had suspension issues with it, and we are still getting use to car with this much power. We have not been able to set the car to kill, but we have already made it into the 9.20s.

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Good on him. Nice to see him out playing like, it's meant to be played with! A lot of racers will dis spending that kind of money for a car??? But don't mind shelling out 60 large for a new truck???!!!

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Welcome aboard and good luck with both cars. I love the way some people think that you can just "Buy" speed. They don't recognize that they are also emissions and safety compliant, come with all the latest touch screen electronic novelties, and free of major wind noise, squeaks, rattles, vibrations. I remember when the 6 speed Challengers first came out. More people complained about the transmission rattling at a rolling idle in first gear, and clunking when letting off the gas at speed.
Keep us posted on those 9's. It's nice to hear some "real world" numbers from real people and not a test piece.

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Thank you all, and I will keep you posted! Unfortunately, our track is now closed for the season. Hoping to sort out the Dart in the spring and get it into the 8s. It will be much harder to get the Demon into the 9s than it will be to get the Dart into the 8s due to less than ideal conditions at Thunder Valley.

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Originally Posted By dvw
Guy pitted next to me last weekend with a Hellcat. Stock except tires and tune. Saw him run 10.09@140.
Doug


Wow! That's on helluva tune!

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Get that kitty up to Fargo! You’ll get your time slip!

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We would love to travel to other tracks, but we are unfortunately too busy much of the time. We are by no means competitive racers. We go for the fun of using our cars for their intended purposes and meeting great people! Hopefully someday we will make it to some other local tracks.

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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
One thing that sticks out is most of the cars you see run on youtube have a note on the bottom that says that the transbrake and torque reserve weren't used, I think tractions the main problem. I'm guessing the 9.65 was mineshaft air, unheard of track prep and every doodad and gadet used.

Plus the driver probably was a little more svelte than some of the people piloting these cars.(and a pro if I'm not mistaken) shruggy


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Yes, the 9.65 pass was made by a professional female driver. Her name escapes me at the moment but she races for Dodge. It was made in the most stripped down model available and the DA was around -1500, I heard.

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Originally Posted By Stroked400
Yes, the 9.65 pass was made by a professional female driver. Her name escapes me at the moment but she races for Dodge. It was made in the most stripped down model available and the DA was around -1500, I heard.


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I follow Ron Silva and his journey of racing his Demon all over the country. He claims his car is getting faster and faster the more miles and passes he gets on it. I want to say I saw him mention some Demon owners getting together in Gainesville FL over the winter to try and duplicate the factory runs.

I believe Ron's car which is stock other than tires has gone 9.83 in good but not ridiculously good air. So in amazing air I don't see the factory claimed ET to be out of reach. What REALLY amazes me is if they really did that on the factory Nitto tire, it seems ditching those is almost required do get the car to hook at all.

Edit, 9.83@137.xx at 650ft DA, He also ran 140MPH @2500DA.

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Yes, Ron is very well known in the Demon community. I don't know if the factory pass was on the stock nittos or not (I think it was though!) The nittos work but a set of Hoosiers or MTs work better.

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Wow, what a great color!


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Wow, what a great color!


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It’s a thing of beauty!!!

Re: He bought it to beat on it ---local car collector [Re: bigdad] #2559862
10/06/18 01:18 PM
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He also has a original hemi dart that runs 8.50's. Great guy.

Re: He bought it to beat on it ---local car collector [Re: bigdad] #2559864
10/06/18 01:21 PM
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Sorry, already said. Didn't read whole thread before posting. My bad. Nice cars!!

Re: He bought it to beat on it ---local car collector [Re: bigdad] #2561580
10/09/18 08:18 PM
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Thanks everyone for the kind words! I am hoping to get out to Thunder Valley next summer with my own car and race it. We are having a new stroker motor built for it because the original 383 just couldn't keep up with the 396 Chevelles and Camaros.

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