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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: 71birdJ68] #2469362
03/20/18 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
Did he ask what size hole is in the bell housing for the bearing retainer?

Since the transmission will be a late 60's 440 23 spline, that question is sort of already been answered.
11" bellhousing 2892262:
http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.php?prod=BH262
Uses the 4.805 retainer.

Funny side story, though - the previous owner (who did the "conversion" on the car to a 4 speed) had installed a transmission with the smaller input retainer on this same bellhousing - so basically, the only thing centering the input shaft were the transmissions' 4 mounting bolts.
True story, looked funny once I took that one out. :-)

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2469648
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I hope your transmission is as good as the one I bought from him. It is perfect. You are right, he sounds a little sleepy on the phone but is willing to listen and answer any questions.

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: dan9] #2470047
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Originally Posted By dan9
I hope your transmission is as good as the one I bought from him. It is perfect. You are right, he sounds a little sleepy on the phone but is willing to listen and answer any questions.

Thanks, me too. :-)

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2471368
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Makes me nervous to buy something of this size ($$$) over the phone without so much as an email confirmation, I can say.
Tried to contact him through his website, but that site isn't the best and that feature doesn't work, either.

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I think Jammie has a day job, that's why it's hard to reach him. I bought my 4 speed over drive from him over the phone. Save the crate that it comes in.

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2471584
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I'ts crazy how far behind Brewer's is... I always go to them for my 4-speed stuff, but hard to do when they don't have it for a while.
I've talked to Jamie Passon twice, and both times he seemed like in his arrogance he didn't have time to sell me anything. May be his demeanor or personality, Idk. If he's bothered by me, I'll gladly spend the money with Wayne and Dan. Would love one of those 5 speeds, though.
Hopefully the new transmission solves the problem.


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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2471617
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I would have bought from Dan in a heartbeat (and have many times before), but the delay in doing so just didn't sit well with me.
Having said that, it is making me nervous that Jamie hasn't returned either email or PM on facebook so far.

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Originally Posted By moparedtn
I would have bought from Dan in a heartbeat (and have many times before), but the delay in doing so just didn't sit well with me.
Having said that, it is making me nervous that Jamie hasn't returned either email or PM on facebook so far.


I've been dealing with Jamie for years now, and I have nothing but the highest praise for him. But he's been somewhat beaten into the ground with the development of this new transmission, it was orders of magnitude more involved than he ever dreamed it could be. He took on a gargantuan task for basically a one man shop.

All I can say it don't worry. He will take care of you, or he'll let you know he can't. I can also say from experience that just calling is the best way to get him, that has always worked best for me.

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2472546
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I heard from him today, makes me feel a ton better.
Told him I had just enough time to do this one last time and I chose to get one from the best in the biz. He liked that. :-)
Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em.

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Either shop is a fine choice. Have dealt with both.


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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2480602
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Transmission was received today in fine shape.

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2480634
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Let us know about that dang noise, I want to know what it is and what caused it work confused


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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2483983
04/17/18 12:42 AM
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The Passon transmission was installed at the mechanics' shop this morning, myself assisting with the install.
Everything went back together fine but all hell broke loose on the test drive, which went all of 100 yards before an awful noise akin to what a starter sounds like on a small block Chevy when it needs LOTS of shimming.
In 1st or 2nd, it could be stopped by pushing back in the clutch; in 3rd it made it regardless of whether the clutch was in or out.

Got Passon on the phone and he requested to hear the noise, which I reproduced for him "live" while on the lift again.
The mechanic, who is knowledgeable on manual transmissions and has rebuilt many in his time, was under the car and pinpointed the issue to the 3-4 part of the transmission. Manual operation of the 3-4 shifter selector on the side of the transmission revealed pretty crappy, hard to operate.

I received what can honestly be described as a negative attitude over the phone, which was very disappointing. I'm into this transmission a good chunk of money; I don't need poor attitude and service, which is what occurred.
He's supposed to be sending me another one.
We'll see, but a wholly disappointing day, capped off by negative attitude over the phone. This isn't going well so far.

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2484031
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Is this a different noise from the original post or similar?Was the release/throwout bearing changed? What kind of clutch is in the car?

Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: RTSrunner] #2484052
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Originally Posted By RTSrunner
Is this a different noise from the original post or similar?Was the release/throwout bearing changed? What kind of clutch is in the car?

Very much different and emanating from a different portion of the transmission.
The clutch and throwout are both CenterForce units, both practically new (100 miles maybe).
It was scrutinized when I got the car back on the lift, making sure all was well there. All clutch linkage is new and from Brewer's.

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Confirmed over center spring is out from under dash?


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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2484439
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Originally Posted By SomeCarGuy
Confirmed over center spring is out from under dash?

Oh trust me, it is. I did that and let me tell you...that's a load of fun, right there.

Today's update is a good one:
Jamie has agreed to take the transmission back and to refund me all charges. This news made me very happy; I'm glad to see him do the honorable thing here. We had a decent conversation via text and all has been arranged.
My old transmission is now in the hands of the mechanic and his friend the "expert". Once they've got it squared away, we'll tow the GTX back to him and the Passon unit will be removed and placed back in the crate for return; my old one will be re-installed in the car then, hopefully for good.
Fingers crossed...
Thanks to Jamie for stepping up here. Restores my faith a little bit. :-)

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Originally Posted By moparedtn
...My old transmission is now in the hands of the mechanic and his friend the "expert". Once they've got it squared away, we'll tow the GTX back to him and the Passon unit will be removed and placed back in the crate for return; my old one will be re-installed in the car then, hopefully for good....


Good choice. It's always an advantage to be able to see your equipment come apart in front of you. Additionally, you are going to find what the original problems was. All good. up


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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: ] #2484547
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When your ORIGINAL trans is apart. Check the runout of the mainshaft to comfirm its not tweeked (bent).

Did you give Jamie the opportunity to sell you a rebuild kit?

Make sure you get the correct front 308 bearing if needed.

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Re: Can anyone confidently identify this noise? A833 4 speed [Re: Cuda340] #2484744
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Originally Posted By Cuda340
When your ORIGINAL trans is apart. Check the runout of the mainshaft to comfirm its not tweeked (bent).

Did you give Jamie the opportunity to sell you a rebuild kit?

Make sure you get the correct front 308 bearing if needed.

Jeff

I don't know squat about transmissions. I am trusting the trans guy to check it out and let me know what it needs. I did tell him the unit shifts and drives beautifully right now and to focus on finding out the source of the mystery noise/whirring/vibration at speeds above 50mph.

I don't know if it even needs rebuilding; I can tell you all the forward gears and synchros feel great. No popping out of gear, no grinding, etc. She shifts as nicely without the clutch as she does with it, pretty much.

In other news, I had a nice conversation with Dan Brewer this morning. I called with a question and he's always, without fail, gone out of his way to help me and answer questions in the past.
Today was no exception. Real nice guy.
We chatted about his current backlog for rebuilt transmissions (2 months now if anyone is wondering) and that he doesn't trust anyone else to do them except him - and that's not going to change.
He did express some sympathy for his direct competitor, saying it was a hard gig to try to do everything himself, but that was how it was going to be as long as he did it.

I asked today about the slip yoke and whether it was possible my original problem could involve that. He doubted it (and he did remember watching my video of the noise in question) and asked if anything had been resolved about it so he could put it in his own memory bank in the future.
Nope, nothing yet Dan. Working on it. :-)

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