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1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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71 challenger rubber bumpers cars are far and few and was curious to see if any out there exist in a non-rt. I have seen a few RT's over the years but never a non-rt. Here is my question, Does anyone have a 71 challenger non-rt 340 or 383 with elastomeric bumpers? Also a build sheet to prove that it came with rubber bumpers. This info. came from B.Washington website: http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/PIBs/1971/71D%20pib%203%20p1.jpgThe 4 colors that you could get on a 71: GB5 EV2 GY3 FC7 Also, curious to see if anyone owns a 71 challenger with rubber bumpers that are not these colors list above? (RT or Non-RT)
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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I'm fairly certain that this is a real rubber bumper car, but I do not have fender tag info for it.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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I'm fairly certain that this is a real rubber bumper car, but I do not have fender tag info for it. It's not on the fender tag
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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I'm fairly certain that this is a real rubber bumper car, but I do not have fender tag info for it. I have this car in my info. along with the broadcast sheet and this is not a factory rubber bumper car. Those were added to the car.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Ah the Great White Buffalo Hunt
I have only seen 3 cars EVER that have had this option and have never seen an actual FC7 car though one was used for advertisement and I have seen an original rear bumper.
Of three I have seen they are:
EV2 - JS23V - automatic Canadian car that I own
GB5 - JS23V - 4 speed - I believe this car was ordered with bumpers but delivered without and then added at the dealer, Grand Spaulding Dodge
GY3 - JS23H - this car came out of the Bay Area and at one time was owned by Lane Rivers, I'm 99% sure it was an R/T
All of these cars are M73. Another cool question would be are there any M71 (front bumper only) cars out there?
Chris I have seen two FC7 RT one being a JS23V car and the other being a JS23H the 340 cars didn't have a build sheet but Scott Smith had it on ebay a few months back and it sold. Was told from the owner before Scott had it that it was a factory rubber bumper car. Will try and post a photo later of it. The hunt is on for a non-rt rubber bumper!
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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I'm fairly certain that this is a real rubber bumper car, but I do not have fender tag info for it. It's not on the fender tag Ah, ok...I was going from memory of many years ago.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Ah the Great White Buffalo Hunt
I have only seen 3 cars EVER that have had this option and have never seen an actual FC7 car though one was used for advertisement and I have seen an original rear bumper.
Of three I have seen they are:
EV2 - JS23V - automatic Canadian car that I own
GB5 - JS23V - 4 speed - I believe this car was ordered with bumpers but delivered without and then added at the dealer, Grand Spaulding Dodge
GY3 - JS23H - this car came out of the Bay Area and at one time was owned by Lane Rivers, I'm 99% sure it was an R/T
All of these cars are M73. Another cool question would be are there any M71 (front bumper only) cars out there?
Chris I have seen two FC7 RT one being a JS23V car and the other being a JS23H the 340 cars didn't have a build sheet but Scott Smith had it on ebay a few months back and it sold. Was told from the owner before Scott had it that it was a factory rubber bumper car. Will try and post a photo later of it. The hunt is on for a non-rt rubber bumper! Would like to have seen it. And as you say the hunt goes on.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Wonder if the tops were still blacked out on non-rt's since the grill and tail are argent... Rubber bumper non-R/T’s DID get the black out. And the tops of the bumpers are black.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Check with 69Mannix. I believe he had a FC7 340 RT with rubber bumpers I took these pics in 1993-4? at Santa Monica Airport. 
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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There was an orange one back around 1977-78 in my neighborhood (Livonia, MI.) - a '71 R/T 383 car. Both F/R were elastomerics w/black on top. Car was all original paint & a little rusty, but a sharp car. As soon as I saw them on the car, I fell in love with the option! Never got a photo of it though.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Couple of the old Ron Adair cars - photos taken in the mid 80's:
As told to me by Ron, the Bahama Yellow car came from Bill Drake in NY as part of the deal for the Red '71 Hemicuda Conv. that came out of MI. Drake allegedly traded the low mile Hemi Challenger HT & some extra boot for the Cuda. (I was onto the Hemicuda before Ron knew about it, but I thought the car was pie-in-the sky & never pursued it. It was real...)
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Bringing this back up to the top.
Good info, thanks for the previous link Autoxcuda.
My question is if the car was coded based on the broadcast sheet for the wide front molding AND M73 ( which shows as RR elastomeric bumper), should it have a rear rubber bumper only?
I realize the data books for M73 state front and rear, but the book also states you couldn't get the wide chrome moulding with Elastomeric Bumpers.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Bringing this back up to the top.
Good info, thanks for the previous link Autoxcuda.
My question is if the car was coded based on the broadcast sheet for the wide front molding AND M73 ( which shows as RR elastomeric bumper), should it have a rear rubber bumper only?
I realize the data books for M73 state front and rear, but the book also states you couldn't get the wide chrome moulding with Elastomeric Bumpers.
You couldn’t get both. They are conflicting options. Rear bumper never offered without front. Would have to be a septerate option since it would need to be priced differently. Can’t think of a trim option that negated part of another trim option. Sorta Like luggage rack and rear wing. Or sunroof on a convertible.
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Re: 1971 Dodge Challenger Non-RT Elastomeric Bumper Car Question
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Appreciate the feedback.
Makes sense you couldn't get the front rubber bumper with wide trim moulding.
But curious as to why data book states M73 is 'Front and Rear Elastomeric bumpers ( R/T Only)' , but the broadcast sheet has spaces for both 'Front Colored Bumper' and ' Rear Colored Bumper' .
If the broadcast sheet has M28 for FT Bumper Periphery Moulding ( Wide Chrome Mouldining) and M73 for Rear Colored bumper , why couldn't it have gotten both?
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