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Re: 65 torque converter seal??
[Re: SportF]
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03/20/18 03:32 PM
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IF you are talking front pump seal, they are the same 62 up.
I think the 65 has a rear pump (can you push start a 65?) IF so, you should install a 62-65 filter. This early filter has an extra hole for oil pickup for rear pump.
Best of luck. Yes, there are instructions for push starting a 65 in the owner's manual.
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Re: 65 torque converter seal??
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03/20/18 04:42 PM
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SportF nailed it. 100% correct. You don't want to use the one hole filter on a valve body made for the two hole/rear pump style application.
Seals remain dimensionally the same from 1962 - 2008 for all 727/46/47/48 transmissions. The later style has helical lips in the ID that helps "pump" fluid in to the trans to prevent leakage.
Last edited by Transman; 03/20/18 07:29 PM.
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Re: 65 torque converter seal??
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03/20/18 08:17 PM
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Many of the single hole filters currently available still have the extra hole in the internal metal frame. Probe with your finger tip and, if the hole is there, trim away the fabric with an X-acto knife to expose the second hole. This gives the benefit of using the later filters with an increased filter area on the early trans. Won't work on the very early pans with a drain plug.
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Re: 65 torque converter seal??
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03/22/18 06:21 PM
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Thanks for all the replies.. I forgot about the rear pump on pre 66 tranys. I would of just got a 727 filter kit and not had the 2nd hole. Basically That is why I checked before I ordered one from NAPA. Most places show same one from 62 up in there parts books.
After almost 71 years I am on my last car. A 65 Plymouth Satellite straight axle altered wheel base car.
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Re: 65 torque converter seal??
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03/23/18 03:41 PM
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I remember changing the fluid and filter on my hundred dollar 65 Chrysler Newport, but it had a column shift. Does that mean either filter would have worked equally well on it?
July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
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Re: 65 torque converter seal??
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03/25/18 01:16 PM
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Thanks for the pictures John. I also solved the pump seal size question. just pulled the old one out and got the number off it. Great info Guys as always.
After almost 71 years I am on my last car. A 65 Plymouth Satellite straight axle altered wheel base car.
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