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First Breakdown In The Dart #2460807
03/04/18 12:09 PM
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Well, yesterday at O Dark Thirty I was heading to the Hemi Show in Phoenix when I got that dreaded puff of smoke from under the dash. Car goes dead and here I’m on the off ramp to the 17, pulled over to the shoulder with not much room. No flashers.Got out and poped the hood.

Called Haggerty. The got DPS on the phone and had the dispatch a trooper.
Once the trooper arrived he determined I was stuck in a really daangerous psoition so much to my chagrin he gave me a push. He was really careful and only gave a slight nudge so I could roll down the off ramp. He followed zigging from lane to lane blocking traffic. Got down to the center median where it was safe.

Of course he chatted with me for a bit, took some pictures of the car etc. The trooper formally workd at an Audi dealer so he’s kinda a car guy.

Anyway, waited an hour for the tow. He arrived and of course he had to take pictures. Finally got the car home. Jumped in the truck and headed for he show. Met up with several board members and ended up having lunch with moparpollack.

The show turned out to be a really nice gathering. Pretty good car count. They had a dyno so there were some Challangers making pulls. so nice cars.

Ill crawl under the dash Monday to see what the problem is. Ordered several fuseable links since the one in the car did it’s job and was toasted.

Anyway, that’s my drama for the weekend.

Last edited by dart4forte; 03/04/18 12:11 PM.
Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2460933
03/04/18 03:21 PM
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What no pics? So everybody took pics of the car but you???


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2461048
03/04/18 07:31 PM
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All in all a pretty fortunate series of events following an unexpected problem. Sure could have been worse.

Glad you and the car are home safe anyway.


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2461076
03/04/18 07:48 PM
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That sucks. Hope the wiring isn't too bad.


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2461106
03/04/18 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By dart4forte
The trooper formally workd at an Audi dealer so he’s kinda a car guy.


Yeah, Audis are kinda cars. grin

Good luck. Hope it is an easy fix.

Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2461118
03/04/18 08:43 PM
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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2461245
03/05/18 12:19 AM
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My similar issue turned out to be a bad alternator. The link did its job and the harness was spared. Hope its not a major deal.

Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2461430
03/05/18 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Sunroofcuda
What no pics? So everybody took pics of the car but you???


Right now my putter is down so im using my I pad. Took a picture on my phone but its too large to post on here. Need to figure out how to shrink pictures on the pad.

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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2461514
03/05/18 03:29 PM
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Glad it wasnt too bad, could have been worse. My first reaction would have been to yank the negative lead to the battery to prevent further meltdowns. You must have been cringing when he had to nudge you along. Painful.

Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: njmopar] #2461566
03/05/18 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By njmopar
Glad it wasnt too bad, could have been worse. My first reaction would have been to yank the negative lead to the battery to prevent further meltdowns. You must have been cringing when he had to nudge you along. Painful.


Initially I couldn’t get out of the car. I was stuck against the jersey barrier and the lane. 40 foot drop on the jersey barrier side and get run over on the other.

The trooper was real careful. Just gave a nudge with his SUV. I coasted down the ramp and into the center median.

Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2462324
03/06/18 11:27 PM
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They have so many horribly done things in the wiring it could be just about anything, even a open amp meter can kill the car, plus all the current going through one wire right to the amp Guage. We did the bypass on Sisters Scamp, or at least my buddy paid a shop to do it before we ended up with it.
I mostly seem to have issues with wires going into the bulkhead connectors coming apart and causing no start and sudden shut down on my Dart, and I've had to bypass and redo things as I find them but so far no direct fires though some spots have run pretty hot before. Not driving it now but I found one more run wire that broke from it's plug that kills the ignition so for now I just stuff it back into the connector when I have to start it till I feel like redoing it.
Hopefully just one wire or a trace on one of the circuit boards in the cluster that can be easily repaired.


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: 69Dartman] #2462467
03/07/18 11:02 AM
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The wiring harness is all new from front to rear. All the stock connections are solid. Reason I went into the fuse box is I didnt want to splice into the stock wiring.

I ordered a mechanical water temp gauge to replace the electric gauge. Now, the only non stock wire will be for the gauge lamps.

Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2462657
03/07/18 04:39 PM
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Where the hot wire for the temp gauge shorted out. It looks like it was laying on the oil pressure gauge fitting which is brass. Some how it mus of come loose or the wire was frayed. It makes sense in that the portion of the wire burned was on the gauge end. Again, the electric gauge goes away replaced by a mechanical.


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2462967
03/08/18 03:11 AM
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Well easy fix and looks like nothing else damaged I'd guess so sometimes it's better to be lucky then good. I had some wires do that on mine when I was trying to wire in a wiper delay. I think I must have hit the wrong circuit and got over 20 amps to the tiny wires on the delay box. It melted the wires, burned into my hand, and blew some circuit traces off the circuit boards on the parts that shorted. I ran some old phone copper wires to replace the traces and redid the delay box and car and gages lived again. Pretty much everything in mine is what it came with except for whatever I had to replace over the years.
They never figured people would still drive them 40 to 50 years later and doubt any other manufacturers did any better back then except maybe using bypass amp meters. I do love how responsive the amp Guage is as I can actually watch my system charge when a big bass note hit on my tunes with a BIG amp.


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: 69Dartman] #2464153
03/10/18 02:59 AM
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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: dart4forte] #2464499
03/10/18 11:09 PM
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I've only been stuck twice with the Bee, but it sucked both times. The first was only a mile from home when a 1-2 power shift found the weak link in the drivetrain and the second was just me pushing too far on a tank of gas. There are more coming, I'm sure.
Glad you got it back up and running.


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Re: First Breakdown In The Dart [Re: OhioMopar] #2464713
03/11/18 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By OhioMopar
I've only been stuck twice with the Bee, but it sucked both times. The first was only a mile from home when a 1-2 power shift found the weak link in the drivetrain and the second was just me pushing too far on a tank of gas. There are more coming, I'm sure.
Glad you got it back up and running.



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