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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird] #2459865
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The column shifter isn't the problem, the automatic transmission is. 3 on the tree cars and trucks are cool! The console shift auto is a little more sporty than the column shift auto like grandmas car had but still a far cry from a stick. Now that all modern automatic cars have gone to console shift, because they too want to look sporty, I have a renewed appreciation for the old column shift mopars. Some of them look quite nice with nicely upholstered bench seats. I don't buy automatics and neither does my wife so I guess for me the point is moot.

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Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Now that all modern automatic cars have gone to console shift...I have a renewed appreciation for the old column shift mopars.... Some of them look quite nice with nicely upholstered bench seats.

iagree

What was once the undesirable norm back in the day is now a novelty.

Heck even some newer trucks/SUV's that have full consoles with shifters in them.

There is a generation or two that do not know what three on the tree is!!


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RMCHRGR] #2459964
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Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
Funny this was brought up. Been looking for a car and If I come across something I like but then see it's a column shift bench seat car it's kinda like wah wah waaah.

I mean if you had a hemi or some such thing why would you choose a column shift? I get the sleeper aspect but how often does that apply anymore? Just my 2 cents...



So you would pass on a nice or good deal on a '68 Hemi Road Runner, 727 Hemi automatic that was only available with a column shift??......or even a '68 383 Road Runner for that matter?

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Originally Posted By A12
Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
Funny this was brought up. Been looking for a car and If I come across something I like but then see it's a column shift bench seat car it's kinda like wah wah waaah.

I mean if you had a hemi or some such thing why would you choose a column shift? I get the sleeper aspect but how often does that apply anymore? Just my 2 cents...



So you would pass on a nice or good deal on a '68 Hemi Road Runner, 727 Hemi automatic that was only available with a column shift??......or even a '68 383 Road Runner for that matter?




Column shifted cars to me (auto or manual) were and still are undesirable, and while I never passed on any in the past because they were in default because of this defect, my only concern was how much work, and what parts would be needed to correct the factory defect and get the shifter on the floor where it belongs...my 70 Charger and 71 Cuda use to suffer from the bench seat/column shifter syndrome, but it was eradicated shorty after purchase...

Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird] #2459975
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Column shifted cars to me (auto or manual) were and still are undesirable,


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An appraiser told me many years ago column shifted cars are "highly undesirable".

Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: kcarfanatic] #2459986
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Originally Posted By kcarfanatic
An appraiser told me many years ago column shifted cars are "highly undesirable".



In the world of Mopar, you cannot make a blanket statement like that...


There are exceptions...


Here's one...

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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird] #2459990
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I also think a column shift and a bench seat is cool. I wasn't born yet when these cars were new, so the opinions of that time period are irrelevant to me. I think its cool because you never see it anymore. If its the same setup that something like a Toyota Camry has, it makes me think that the console and buckets are the uncool setup, not the other way around. Again, I understand why people who lived through the era think differently, but that's not my perspective on it.


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO] #2459997
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Originally Posted By kcarfanatic
An appraiser told me many years ago column shifted cars are "highly undesirable".



In the world of Mopar, you cannot make a blanket statement like that...


There are exceptions...


Here's one...






Try as you might, There's not ONE exception that you could sell me on, that would want me desiring a column shift equipped vehicle

Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: DAYCLONA] #2460002
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Wouldn't even try...



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The ONLY view I want to see...

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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird] #2460006
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Push button Auto has got everybody beat for the cool factor
Works well with either bench or buckets.... stirthepot


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: A12] #2460008
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Originally Posted By A12
So you would pass on a nice or good deal on a '68 Hemi Road Runner, 727 Hemi automatic that was only available with a column shift??......or even a '68 383 Road Runner for that matter?


I might. I try to keep an open mind when I look but if the price is on the higher end of what I have in mind for a particular car then I generally move onto something else because A) I know I won't be happy with it and B) I may not have enough money/time to buy the car then swap in a 4 speed/floor shift immediately after. Then I'm stuck with a car I don't like. What's the point in that? Bench seat would bother me less than a column shift but if I have the choice, I prefer bucket seats. I've had enough column shift/bench seat cars to know I don't like or want them.

As far as bench seat 'usefulness' - I'm 47, married with two kids. In general, it's not the greatest to have my wife with me when I'm in my car. I have little interest in snuggling up with her when she's yelling at me to slow down or stop driving aggressively.


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RMCHRGR] #2460010
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Originally Posted By RMCHRGR
In general, it's not the greatest to have my wife with me when I'm in my car. I have little interest in snuggling up with her when she's yelling at me to slow down or stop driving aggressively.



Have you tried wearing something in purple???

Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird] #2460017
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I'm ambivalent about them.

When it comes down to it, I'd rather have a 4-speed floor shifted car, but it doesn't mean I'd turn my nose up at a column shifted auto.

Now, a column shifted 3-speed is awesome.


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: RSNOMO] #2460029
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
Wouldn't even try...



'65 A-990 Torqueflite...


A thing of beauty...


The ONLY view I want to see...


Can we see pictures of yours?


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: 68Cbarge] #2460037
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Originally Posted By 68Cbarge
Originally Posted By DaytonaTurbo
Now that all modern automatic cars have gone to console shift...I have a renewed appreciation for the old column shift mopars.... Some of them look quite nice with nicely upholstered bench seats.

iagree

What was once the undesirable norm back in the day is now a novelty.

Heck even some newer trucks/SUV's that have full consoles with shifters in them.

There is a generation or two that do not know what three on the tree is!!


Yeah, I'm with that. I used to hate them, now I've learned to appreciate them more just because they are no longer the norm.

Either that or I'm getting old... grin

Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: Pale_Roader] #2460039
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Originally Posted By Pale_Roader
Chevy never column-shifted a Corvette...


No, but they did with Camaro, the competition of E-bodies...

'67 with bench and column:


'71 with buckets and column:

Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: OhioMopar] #2460049
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Here is your answer.
Originally Posted By OhioMopar
Anything I ever saw performance related
as a kid
had buckets and a floor shifter.


It was simply considered cooler back then to have had the buckets and floor shifter.
The stigma stuck.

My first "Hot Rod" was a 69 bee with the bench and column automatic. Wish I still had it.
I had plenty of both set-ups over the years.
I like the bench and column shift better for my personal comfort.
Though I wouldn't hesitate to get another bucket seat floor shift car either.


I have mechanical Aptitude.
I can screw up anything.
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
All this talk of column or floor shifters.
And here I am pushing buttons.
With a RMVB.

Ahhh!
The Old type writers.
Just push R for race! grin


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Re: Whats so bad about auto on col. and bench seat cars? [Re: EV2Bird] #2460061
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Along with muscle car performance you wanted muscle car looks and style to go with your new muscle car. Back in the day you would find column shift on Dad's utility family wagon. Not exactly the performance image that you would want with your hot new ride.

I've owned many muscle cars. I prefer a stick but if they were automatics they had to have buckets and a console. And the slapstick automatic shifter was cool too.


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