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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert] #2459340
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I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.

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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Guitar Jones] #2459341
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iagree LOL, or a 6.4. Didn't get much better after the 6.0.


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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5] #2459352
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Okay, judging by the large number of responses in a quick amount of time, the cult following still seams strong and what I'm seeing is just a coincidence.

Not that I have a need for a Diesel, I have been contemplating buying an older lower mile truck (maybe mid to late 90's) to keep around just for open trailer tow purposes and ext. As many have stated on recent threads on this board, there is a lot of concern with future serviceability on some of the newer vehicles due to all of the electronics that may or may not be supported in 10-15 or more years.

FYI- I do love driving Diesel trucks; some of my friends were into the fast Diesel truck craze mentioned above. Just something about smashing into the loud pedal on one of those things; really amazing that something that heavy can move like that.

I went to a Diesel event at the track years ago and saw many huge, street trucks running in the 10's in the 1/4 mile; that's just amazing.

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Once you tow with a diesel, you will never want to tow with a gas powered truck again! Mytruck gains speed towing uphill, I used to have to get a run on a hill in my gas powered Ram 2500.


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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert] #2459367
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Bought my second CTD in 07 and didnt look back. Got the last of the 5.9s. Came with CATs but thats OK. Only reason I traded my 02 was I wanted a bigger cab. So far the only major engine issue is a leaky rear main seal. Interior issues, mostly the drivers seat.

As far as a cult into these trucks its easy to get caught up spending coin on these trucks.

Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: dart4forte] #2459370
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A dealer in my area was advertising new 2017 4x4 Cummins for a little under 34k and they had 150 of them. Could have something to do with the deals on the new trucks.

Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert] #2459376
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


146K ain't even normal mileage for a 2005, should be in the 200's by now! Do with your truck what it was meant to do and you will see things differently... work


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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: Rhinodart] #2459385
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Jim, my truck only had 32k miles on it when I bought it eight years ago. These aren't even broken in until they have 100k miles on them.


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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: parksr5] #2459388
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Probably a few reasons.

1. Used Cummins prices are ridiculously high. A 200,000 mile truck in good shape can easily fetch 16,000 bucks or more.

2. Diesel prices are about 50 cents a gallon higher than gas prices, negating the mileage advantage of a diesel...ESPECIALLY if you don't tow a lot.

3. Maintenance expenses on a Cummins truck can be pretty high.

4. '95-'05 was 13-23 years ago. The trucks are probably starting to wear out, even though the engines are still good. People are probably getting tired of rusted fenders, cracked dashes, and seat padding that's worn down to the frame.

I think that now, with the greater focus on capability that Ram has with their gasoline trucks, Cummins trucks are not as necessary for the majority of truck owners. I, personally know two people who have sold their Cummins Rams and purchased gas powered rams. One a 5.7 2500 and the other a 6.4 3500. The money they made on the sale of the diesel trucks made the gas trucks ridiculously cheap. The guy with the 6.4 tows with it all the time with a gooseneck trailer and he couldn't be more pleased.

I sold my 05 Cummins 3500 a while back and bought a used 2014 1500 Tradesman. I couldn't be happier with the new truck. It's quieter, rides better, is more comfortable, and can still tow 10,000 pounds...which can handle everything I'll ever throw at it.

In the end, I think people are running the numbers and realizing that they are better off with a gas truck if they don't absolutely need a diesel.

None of this is to say that the Cummins Ram is not a fantastic truck...I just think that lots of people are realizing that they really don't NEED the Cummins, so they are moving on.

I have no hard data to back this up...just a guess on my part.

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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert] #2459393
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Once you tow with a diesel, you will never want to tow with a gas powered truck again! Mytruck gains speed towing uphill, I used to have to get a run on a hill in my gas powered Ram 2500.


Not Me. I went from a 2008 6.7 to a 2015 6.4 Hemi and haven't looked back. My gas truck only uses 7 qts of oil, no fuel filter concerns, and it gets warm enough to defrost the windows in the winter.

If you're towing 15,000 regularly, the Cummins makes sense, but you don't need a diesel to pull 7500 lbs around, and I certainly don't need one to drive back and forth to work M-F.

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Any gas truck can drag around a typical open car trailer, but an enclosed trailer is a different story.


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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: chargervert] #2459399
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Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.


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Re: Is Everyone Selling Their Cummins [Re: ViperDave] #2459406
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Originally Posted By ViperDave


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.


Yeah, I have to wonder just how many sales Ford and GM got thanks to the 47re.

The 48re solved those issues, but it was a 4-speed when everyone else was selling a 6 and it still wasn't perfect. I know that I had to replace three governor pressure solenoids on the thing. At least it was a cheap fix that I could handle myself.


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Just turned 106K on m 2015 2500 4x4 5.7 Hemi Ram regular cab and tow constantly with it. The ride is pretty rough when not loaded down though. I do have a first gen again to tow my larger trailers which I will this summer to the big shows, but no need for a daily diesel anymore. twocents


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I have people try to buy mine all the time... more than any vehicle I ever owned. Only way I'd sell mine is if I found the right 04-05 as they will always be my favorite years for them. I'm currently driving a 04 hemi ram, how people can drive gas trucks and deal with the lower power and mpgs is beyond me... I pretty much hate the thing. I may buy a rust bucket 03-05 and swap the body over and keep the 5.7 for a swap.


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Originally Posted By ViperDave
Originally Posted By chargervert
Originally Posted By ViperDave
I got out of the diesel game a few years ago when I sold my 34ft enclosed triaxle trailer. MY hemi truck tows my single car trailer very well, and does everything I need including towing all my friends broken down diesels everywhere


Now that's comical, I have 146k miles on my 05 Ram 2500 4x4, and not a single breakdown or failure ever. That may happen to guys who don't maintain their diesels but if they are properly maintained they are bullet proof. The exception to the rule is ten year old Ford diesels, with their head gasket issues.


47Rh/re failures. vp pump failures. lift pump failures on both common rail trucks and vp trucks. ve pump trucks with stuck shutdown solenoids. 6.0L with blown head gaskets, Hpops, etc. 6.4L with cracked pistons. Lb7 with dead glow plugs.

Not to say gas trucks don't have faults. And most of my diesel friends have modified trucks, but I seem to see a lot of diesel trucks on trailers behind my hemi truck.


The lift pump issues seem to be more likely on 2004 and older Rams. So far no transmission issues, but I change the fluid regularly and I use only Mopar ATF 4 fluid. The last time I changed the fluid, I found most of the snap ring for the overdrive unit in the pan so I had to replace that,but I caught it before it became an issue. I change the oil every six thousand miles, and change the fuel filter every other oil change. I use only Wix filters,and either Rotella,or Cummins formulated Valvoline oil.


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Originally Posted By Silver70
I'm currently driving a 04 hemi ram, how people can drive gas trucks and deal with the lower power and mpgs is beyond me...


My '14 5.7 flat-out scoots and even with the old 6-speed, I'm seeing better mileage than my diesel. I get about 17mpg combined...higher if I try.

Granted, the engine puts out 50 more HP than the earlier models.


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Originally Posted By biggE
A dealer in my area was advertising new 2017 4x4 Cummins for a little under 34k and they had 150 of them. Could have something to do with the deals on the new trucks.


On the big diesel or the lil eco-diesel?

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When I bought my 92, one didn't have much choice for a working truck if you bought a Dodge.....360 or Cummins, not much of a comparison.

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Originally Posted By Orange_Crush
Originally Posted By Silver70
I'm currently driving a 04 hemi ram, how people can drive gas trucks and deal with the lower power and mpgs is beyond me...


My '14 5.7 flat-out scoots and even with the old 6-speed, I'm seeing better mileage than my diesel. I get about 17mpg combined...higher if I try.

Granted, the engine puts out 50 more HP than the earlier models.


I won't say my hemi truck is slow, but compared to my diesel it is laugh2 Then again it's not stock either and mods done added to the mpgs as well as added a good bit of power. I couldn't do that with the hemi. Also 11-12 vs 19-20mpg is a huge difference to me between my trucks.

I'd really like to get a newer 1500 ram diesel... only other way I'd part with my 01.

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