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Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? #2449134
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We are ordering a hellcat engine for the Charger in a couple weeks. Just getting other stuff lined up too.

Appears magnum force is pretty backup on there suspension parts. 8weeks from what I hear.

But my main question is the trans option. I am new to these conversions so what is our trans option.

Are people really paying $8K for a 6 speed trans!!
I know this is not a cheap project but was hoping the trans option was going to be a little more reasonable..
Thanks for any help.

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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2449166
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T-56 is about the only thing that will hold up, the TKO 600 needs some help
Liberty Gear magnum XL 6060 (t56 for some of the old timers) starts @ 3550
Rockland Gear T-56/Tranzilla Magnum , not sure what price they are now, the last one I bought was bought for 2016 Hellcat that burned down( fire sale I guess you could call it) paid $1600 for it.

as for 8k, for a trans, if that's what they'll pay then yeah, I know I won't pay that much , hit Ebay there's always a T-56 or Magnum in the 2-3k price range


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: ric3xrt] #2449294
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Thanks for the info. That sounds much more reasonable!!

Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2449300
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So something like this? This a GM piece. Is there a specific application I need to search for?

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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2449309
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T56 Magnum is the Hot Rod version of the TR6060. The TR6060 is OEM for Viper, Hellcat, ZR1. The Magnum/TR6060 is stronger than the older T56.

I run a T56 Magnum behind my 3gen Hemi 'Cuda. I bought my setup from pilot bearing to driveshaft from Silver Sport Transmissions.

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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2449317
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The GM close ratio version TUET11009 is the one I use on my Gen 3. I also use the T56 to small block Quicktime Bellhousing 8074. The pricing went up a lot since I bought mine in 2013! $3200 for trans and $730 for bellhousing.


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2449378
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Would the Passon 855 be an option? I think it has a pretty high rating

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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Would the Passon 855 be an option? I think it has a pretty high rating


Should work, there are 833s behind Gen3s out there. Just better not be in a hurry to get it...


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2449547
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I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch.


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: Silver70] #2449640
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Originally Posted By Silver70
I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch.



That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans.


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: mymcodebee] #2450193
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i have a friend that road races with a amc 401 with a richmond 5 speed----he says that if you are at a race and you see a group of drivers standing around talking----one of them is asking if someone has a t56 core-----and these are guys that put the big dollars into their trannys when they race....

Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2450312
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Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Originally Posted By Silver70
I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch.



That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans.


With that logic, then why didn't you buy a new mopar built crate hemi? I can have this viper t56 built up and still have less into it than a new t56 magnum. Same way I go about engines... rather build my own and know what I have exactly.

Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: Silver70] #2450319
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Originally Posted By Silver70
Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Originally Posted By Silver70
I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch.



That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans.


With that logic, then why didn't you buy a new mopar built crate hemi? I can have this viper t56 built up and still have less into it than a new t56 magnum. Same way I go about engines... rather build my own and know what I have exactly.


The reman 5.7L Hemi was free, it was merely disassembled for a time study. So no, I didn't buy a new crate to replace a reman engine with 0 miles on it, but I appreciate your concern.


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2450360
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Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Originally Posted By Silver70
Originally Posted By GoodysGotaCuda
Originally Posted By Silver70
I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch.



That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans.


With that logic, then why didn't you buy a new mopar built crate hemi? I can have this viper t56 built up and still have less into it than a new t56 magnum. Same way I go about engines... rather build my own and know what I have exactly.


The reman 5.7L Hemi was free, it was merely disassembled for a time study. So no, I didn't buy a new crate to replace a reman engine with 0 miles on it, but I appreciate your concern.


So you paid 3k plus for a trans that will handle twice the power your reman hemi makes? Guess if you get things for free then might as well blow $ on other things you don't really need. Some of us actual pay for our own parts.

Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: Silver70] #2450396
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Originally Posted By Silver70


So you paid 3k plus for a trans that will handle twice the power your reman hemi makes? Guess if you get things for free then might as well blow $ on other things you don't really need. Some of us actual pay for our own parts.



Yep. thumbs


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: Silver70] #2450506
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Im with Goody on buying a new trans. I respect everyone on a budget and all of that but I just prefer to buy new parts. Brand new stuff gives me piece of mind as reliability is more important to me than horsepower. There is a reason why used stuff is for sale, mostly with an unknown sketchy history. Time is important to me too as it sucks to have the car down waiting for a part. With new parts you just slap it on and go. I actually regret not buying another T56 Magnum last year as it jumped up a couple hundred bucks. If and when my trans goes out I would just throw the new one in and be back on the track while the first trans would get rebuilt.


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Originally Posted By RylisPro
Im with Goody on buying a new trans. I respect everyone on a budget and all of that but I just prefer to buy new parts. Brand new stuff gives me piece of mind as reliability is more important to me than horsepower. There is a reason why used stuff is for sale, mostly with an unknown sketchy history. Time is important to me too as it sucks to have the car down waiting for a part. With new parts you just slap it on and go. I actually regret not buying another T56 Magnum last year as it jumped up a couple hundred bucks. If and when my trans goes out I would just throw the new one in and be back on the track while the first trans would get rebuilt.


So you'd rebuild the first one if it went out... Why not just buy another new one instead? Isn't that contradicting everything you just said?

Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: Silver70] #2450526
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Originally Posted By Silver70
So you'd rebuild the first one if it went out... Why not just buy another new one instead? Isn't that contradicting everything you just said?

I did mention buying a second new trans.
The T56 Magnum currently in my car was brand new and I put all of the miles on it so I know its exact history. Will rebuild it with all new parts as well when the time comes and keep it as a spare. Totally different from buying a used trans from someone else.

Hell, I'll probably do the same thing with my engine, buy another brand new 426 aluminum crate and rebuild the current to keep around ready to go when needed.


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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion? [Re: RylisPro] #2450528
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Originally Posted By RylisPro
The T56 Magnum currently in my car was brand new and I put all of the miles on it so I know its exact history. Will rebuild it with all new parts as well when the time comes and keep it as a spare. Totally different from buying a used trans from someone else.

Hell, I'll probably do the same thing with my engine, buy another brand new 426 aluminum crate and rebuild the current to keep around ready to go when needed.


Whats the difference if you buy a used one and put all new parts in even if it was owned by someone else. What does the history have to do with it if your replacing everything... Used is used!

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It means everything to me. I have no idea if the guy selling me a used trans had previously dropped it or not and it ends up having a cracked case? Why would you sell a used T56 Magnum anyways as they are great transmissions that anyone would want, unless there is something wrong with it and that person selling needed to get rid of it. Used parts work for you and thats awesome! More power to you as well as cash in your wallet. I just personally do not trust any used parts.

With a brand new trans, everything is 100% good which leaves no doubt. Parts also have a finite life span as well. Nothing raced and abused lasts forever.


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