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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: Jeremiah]
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01/31/18 01:36 PM
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I just received one of the two bells I sent to Hyatt. It's really, really nice and Chris is great to work with.
Not only did he add the window, the surfaced it to square it up. I was really impressed with that. What did it cost and how long did it take? I had to wait almost 2 months for Lakewood and that was 2 years ago. I have a second bell housing I need windowed. I have no problem using Hyatt.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: lockjaw-express]
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01/31/18 10:33 PM
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I try to remain silent and out of the BS on most group chats but adj clutches on the street are close to me heart and I cant understand some of the stuff I hear......
Guys claim that you cant chassis dyno a slipper clutch... incorrect. You are in high gear for a longer period of time on the track then any dyno pull.... so if it slips on the dyno, I guarantee it is going to drive through the clutch at the track! if you are concerned and don't want to risk anything, put a couple turns of base in...
I have driven my car around on the street for years with less then 400#'s of base and 12 grams on each finger..... worked perfectly.. car made 840rwhp and weighed 3765
If you are worried about driving through the clutch on the street, just gear down and keep the revs a bit higher or add a couple turns of base! using shims or re-setting your heights is key to making sure the clutch works how you want it!
Chris Hyatt is still doing clutch work and can service all you stuff, have been working with him since his dad passed and he has been awesome!
He is a perfectionist at his work and will treat you right!
Those rams clutch's work ok, but I'm not a fan that they cant go lower then 800#'s on the BBC set up... I had a friend run one and we ended up with less then 1 turn of base and it was still hitting the tire too hard, he took it out and put back in a soft lock.
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: RATTRAP]
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01/31/18 10:57 PM
01/31/18 10:57 PM
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Nice to see some rational, real world experience on this issue. Chris is one of the good guys for sure and I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed with his service.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: cuda499]
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01/31/18 11:41 PM
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I try to remain silent and out of the BS on most group chats but adj clutches on the street are close to me heart and I cant understand some of the stuff I hear......
Guys claim that you cant chassis dyno a slipper clutch... incorrect. You are in high gear for a longer period of time on the track then any dyno pull.... so if it slips on the dyno, I guarantee it is going to drive through the clutch at the track! if you are concerned and don't want to risk anything, put a couple turns of base in...
I have driven my car around on the street for years with less then 400#'s of base and 12 grams on each finger..... worked perfectly.. car made 840rwhp and weighed 3765
If you are worried about driving through the clutch on the street, just gear down and keep the revs a bit higher or add a couple turns of base! using shims or re-setting your heights is key to making sure the clutch works how you want it!
Chris Hyatt is still doing clutch work and can service all you stuff, have been working with him since his dad passed and he has been awesome!
He is a perfectionist at his work and will treat you right!
Those rams clutch's work ok, but I'm not a fan that they cant go lower then 800#'s on the BBC set up... I had a friend run one and we ended up with less then 1 turn of base and it was still hitting the tire too hard, he took it out and put back in a soft lock.
Straight poop right here^^^^^^^^^^^. I also disagree with all that base load. Ram loves it. I have the broken parts to prove you can break parts with big plate loads.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: cuda499]
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02/01/18 12:15 AM
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Agreeing or disagreeing with what I said??? Absolutely agreeing with you. 100%.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: RATTRAP]
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02/01/18 02:09 AM
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I get why he likes the high base loads on the streets. Some guys will drive through the clutch because they won't downshift and think they should be able to run around in high gear at 2200 and mash the clutch.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: RATTRAP]
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02/01/18 02:36 AM
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I would like to have one of those trans in my 64! Good pic on the mounts too.
Looking at the clutch, how do you determine the poundage? I know absolutely nothing on this.
Last edited by cudaman1969; 02/01/18 02:40 AM.
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: lockjaw-express]
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02/01/18 02:58 AM
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Thank you, Cudaman!
I kind of fudged up on the mount...I need two more bolts in front of the tray/mount. Just have not got around to it.
I also since added tubular CM fore/aft limiters as well that will help keep the trans in place.
Mark I've looked at a few but don't know which to stay away from, new is still way out of budget for now. I would have to keep part of the stock crossmember too because I'm still have t-bars. Are all the good clutches long style or are some B&B?
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: RATTRAP]
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02/01/18 06:01 AM
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For a street/strip application that isn't clutchless, a good diaphragm combined with an engagement buffer is going to be a far better choice than the typical SoftLoc style clutch. Less maintenance, less broken parts, and adjustable engagement without going inside the bell. No need to change settings from street to strip, no worrys about lugging the engine and burning up the clutch. This style clutch might be something different to many of you, but look at what the NMRA Coyote Stock sealed crate engine class is doing with it. They race heads up on a pro tree, and everyone has the same engine. Both automatic and stick trans are allowed, both run at the same weight. Automatics are allowed any converter and a trans brake, sticks are required to run a minimum 10" dia single disc diaphragm clutch. I don't think there are any competitive automatics in the class, most all are sticks running the diaphragm/ClutchTamer setup. Running at 3175lbs, those $6500 NA 302ci sealed crate engines run 10.0 @ 132. The guy in this link isn't using a sealed engine, but it sets the NA Coyote record on it's 3rd pass using the exact same clutch setup, 9600rpm with a diaphragm PP... NA Coyote record run
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Re: Soft Lok Clutch on the street
[Re: lockjaw-express]
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02/01/18 07:23 PM
02/01/18 07:23 PM
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Weedburner, What is an engagement buffer? Diaphram Clutch? Dual disc?
Thank, Mark Yeah it's a screen door damper with some fancy brackets  Gus 
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