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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: merpar]
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09/11/17 05:43 PM
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WedgeFED
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Anyone hear the fat lady sing yet???? It is a huge secret...Yep cannot say the rest I want to say here or I will be black listed for saying the truth I know about KB.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: Dragula]
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09/11/17 05:54 PM
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rickseeman
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I like the valley design a lot better than the Indy block for oil drain back...
An Indy block has no oil drainback to speak of. Your oil pan will go dry in less than 60 seconds after initial startup, then you can pull the motor back out of the car, completely tear it down and re-engineer the oiling system so it will work. I can't imagine how they stay in business. I don't want to be, and don't think I'm qualified to be, an oil system engineer. I want to buy a block that works. The Indy aluminum block might be the most unfunctioning part I've ever bought. And I buy a lot of parts.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: rickseeman]
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09/11/17 08:28 PM
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Sammy
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I like the valley design a lot better than the Indy block for oil drain back...
An Indy block has no oil drainback to speak of. Your oil pan will go dry in less than 60 seconds after initial startup, then you can pull the motor back out of the car, completely tear it down and re-engineer the oiling system so it will work. I can't imagine how they stay in business. I don't want to be, and don't think I'm qualified to be, an oil system engineer. I want to buy a block that works. The Indy aluminum block might be the most unfunctioning part I've ever bought. And I buy a lot of parts. Same thing just happened to me on our new Indy block. I just rebuilt the whole thing and still not sure if I fixed the problem. What a nightmare. Oil pressure is good for about 60 seconds and then starts dropping like a stone as soon as oil warms up. Talk about frustration.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
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09/11/17 10:39 PM
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rickseeman
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You guys with the Indy block problems need to call Best Machine, they build them all day long. I'm sure they can. That's not what I am saying. I'm saying I want a block that doesn't have to be re-engineered after I get it. Todd and Ray Barton helped me make it usable. My thanks to them.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: rickseeman]
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01/11/18 12:20 AM
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Brought this back up. Any more news on blocks and availability, cost,where to order, etc?
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: WedgeFED]
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01/11/18 07:37 PM
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One of these days we will be able to pick up the phone, call 1-800-blok and 7 days later be scrubbing it down.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: RBRE]
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01/11/18 07:59 PM
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Do that now if you want to hold your nose and hide your face. Hell, 34K and 7 days later, it's in and running. 1250 horse NA 632.
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If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: CMcAllister]
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01/11/18 08:32 PM
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Do that now if you want to hold your nose and hide your face. Hell, 34K and 7 days later, it's in and running. 1250 horse NA 632. I don't blame you one bit. If I had a serious racing program, I wouldn't let it be held hostage by lack of availability for engine components related to one brand of motor. You gotta do what you gotta do. Who did you end up buying from?
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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01/11/18 09:32 PM
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CMcAllister
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Do that now if you want to hold your nose and hide your face. Hell, 34K and 7 days later, it's in and running. 1250 horse NA 632. I don't blame you one bit. If I had a serious racing program, I wouldn't let it be held hostage by lack of availability for engine components related to one brand of motor. You gotta do what you gotta do. Who did you end up buying from? No one, yet. But I'm paying attention. Waiting for things to shake out on my end. Don't know what, but I hope to hit the ground running on something this spring. Would like to do a Mopar Stock or Super Stock car or high MPH Super Gas car, but I'd hate to have to worry about running over the crankshaft with an expensive piece.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: earthmover]
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01/12/18 04:01 AM
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My next biild.632 wish I would have made the move before the new motor..but oh well ..unless someone would like a new 512 low deck .. Short or Long block? Feel free to PM.
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines
[Re: CMcAllister]
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01/12/18 11:31 AM
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Do that now if you want to hold your nose and hide your face. Hell, 34K and 7 days later, it's in and running. 1250 horse NA 632. PAR has 632's that'll make that much for about $20k. It's getting harder and harder to be a Mopar racer.
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