Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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I have brought this up before, if you weld (or just tack) on hardened steel it will more than likely break, in 6 months or so. Depending on the amount of heat, and time, it brittles, and failure is on its way. That's pretty much true. Looking back , I bought these Strange axles back in 1975, No Twisting of the splines, never had to change the bearings . Thousands of wheels up 1/4 mile runs. I doubt if there going to snap off anytime soon.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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That's pretty much true. Looking back , I bought these Strange axles back in 1975, No Twisting of the splines, never had to change the bearings . Thousands of wheels up 1/4 mile runs. I doubt if there going to snap off anytime soon.
I'd recommend the Moser option as well. As racers themselves, they are very customer oriented. Anything can break eventually. I had a 2,850lb Challenger with a Dana 60 & 35 spline Strange axles. Car had very limited time with a 440/4 speed before I got it, but my combo was a 360/W-2/auto footbraking and running as fast as 10.22. I broke an axle after about 9 years of almost year-round twice per week racing here in Florida while doing well. I think I wore out a ring & pinion or two in that time as well! I've used Moser axles in my 3,540lb+ Dart Sport for around 17 years, but have upgraded to lighter axles a few years ago. Never a problem with the axles. But I'm going to a Moser Dana 60 in it and my Aspen so I don't have to worry about the ring & pinion anymore. Easier to check too! With my less hectic schedule, it might be the last time I change anything with the rear besides fluid.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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I have brought this up before, if you weld (or just tack) on hardened steel it will more than likely break, in 6 months or so. Depending on the amount of heat, and time, it brittles, and failure is on its way. That's pretty much true. Looking back , I bought these Strange axles back in 1975, No Twisting of the splines, never had to change the bearings . Thousands of wheels up 1/4 mile runs. I doubt if there going to snap off anytime soon. When I bring this up, there is always stories of "I did this and nothing happened". This came about when I tack welded 10 studs to a hub. Of these, the heads popped off of 7, 6 months later. I talked with the metallurgist at work and he basically stated it will change the structure every time. A couple of weeks later, I was talking to friend who tack welded the collar on his axels. I finished his sentence by saying "and the axles broke, right?" Which is what had happened. Now, you can weld it, but its not a good idea. I didn't know it at the time, and just wanted to pass this along.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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I wouldn't spend a dime w/ Strange. I've seen way more broken Strange parts than I have Moser, not to mention they are hard to deal with. After a lot of asking around, I found the best thing to do was to send axles back to the manufacturer to get redrilled for bigger studs. Moser has great turnaround time and they don't require you to remove the bearing. If you have strange axles, it sounds like you'd be better off to buy new axles from another manufacturer.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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Well this is just great..... another one of those items I've blindly looked over. Guess I'm adding new axles along with the new rear disc brake. THANKS!! $$$ I hear ya J body!
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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well.... emailed Cass. He gave me contact info at Strange Engineering. Got ahold of them today. Got an RMA and shipped my axles off to them. $80 bucks for the 5/8ths machine work. I have the dual pattern 1/2" studs and it sounds like they will add a third pattern being the 5/8ths. NO they won't add a 3rd bolt pattern. They will re-drill/tap one or both if requested of your existing bolt patterns. Did you request both? did you state which one you wanted?If you do both patterns you have a better choice of wheels , Chevy wheels are always cheeper than Mopar.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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As far as I know, Moser isn't set up to re-drill/tap Strange or Mark Williams "race" axles. Cass, I have a set of your axles in my dana. Would strange or anyone else be able/willing to install 5/8 studs? FYI Your PM box is full.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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well.... emailed Cass. He gave me contact info at Strange Engineering. Got ahold of them today. Got an RMA and shipped my axles off to them. $80 bucks for the 5/8ths machine work. I have the dual pattern 1/2" studs and it sounds like they will add a third pattern being the 5/8ths. I'll also buy the studs/spacers/lugs from them for some added cost.
I swear looking at my 1/2 studs there was a little bending going on..... Great, who do you contact? I need a set done, maybe two sets.
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
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You'll sleep better too! put it right up there with a billet front drum on a 727.... it might not ever break, but if it does, it's going to do a WHOLE lotta damage! As far as contact info Cass had messaged me an email for Jacob at SE. I emailed them asap on the 2nd and was immediately returned with an auto note that they would be back in the office the 3rd. Checked my phone throughout the day (3rd) and no reply. Got on there web site the morning of the 4th and filled out there online inquiry. Later that day I called and talked with Andrew. Told him what I needed, gave me my RMA number and I shipped my axles out. Later that day the inquiry I emailed was answered, so I simply replied that "Andrew" was taking care of things. I hate to be pushy about these things.... but it was an unforeseen interruption on my disc brake install. I "want" to go racing in about 4 weeks, and I "have" to go racing in March as I'm already preentered in the 60th annual March Meet at Famoso. I tend to drag my feet on stuff and don't need to be addressing this at the last minute. Jay
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Re: Re-drilling axles for 5/8" studs
[Re: Dave Hall]
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I can't see them taking more than two weeks back to your door. You'll make it. I would say that is a worse case senario, their turn around time is usually pretty quick.. I sent mine in for a shorten and respline and was back in less than that.
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