Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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I grew up working on FE Fords, I still do some BBF engines.Ford FE series engines, are literally among some of the biggest movers right now for some of the manufatures parts...its scary how many are being built right now. Cheap, easy to find, and decent bang for the buck.460 BBF is same, easy to make great power and torque, and parts ARE available. The FE is a cool looking engine with the pentroof valve covers and the wild intake and exhaust manifolds. It is a quirky engine with the pushrods in the intake and stuff like that but I guess that adds character. Some of the stuff is similar to a BB Mopar. Shaft rocker arms, front oil pump, skirted block, cross bolted blocks on the race engines, etc.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Do you foresee any problems with the slightly longer, taller runners on the rear cylinders like that? What's the deal with the center ridge in the floor of the intake port in the cylinder head? i think that ridge is for pushrod tube clearance. Pushrods go through the intake on FE engines. The ridge in the intake port is for flow. They call it a floor wing or a vane. It sits in the low velocity part of the port and helps the mixture make the turn into the valve. At least that is the theory. I suppose Trick Flow did a bunch of flow bench development with and without the wing but they didn't post any of that information on their website so I'm just guessing that they found that it helps. I don't think I've seen a wing like that in any Mopar ports but I've seen it before in some Chevy engines.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Jay Brown is now selling these intake adapters for FE Ford engines. They adapt a 351 Cleveland intake to it. So you have more manifold choices, and you can swap intakes or inspect the valley without draining the coolant and disassembling the valve train. They are selling like hotcakes.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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I race with a bunch of FE ford guys when I meet with the UMTR stick guys. Larry's wagon is a cool FE racer Gus
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Do you foresee any problems with the slightly longer, taller runners on the rear cylinders like that? What's the deal with the center ridge in the floor of the intake port in the cylinder head? i think that ridge is for pushrod tube clearance. Pushrods go through the intake on FE engines. The ridge in the intake port is for flow. They call it a floor wing or a vane. It sits in the low velocity part of the port and helps the mixture make the turn into the valve. At least that is the theory. I suppose Trick Flow did a bunch of flow bench development with and without the wing but they didn't post any of that information on their website so I'm just guessing that they found that it helps. I don't think I've seen a wing like that in any Mopar ports but I've seen it before in some Chevy engines. I noticed a bid difference in flow swirl pattern on the piston with a tilted port floor on my iron heads from the Edl flat port I have .
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Engine is almost together, just trying to round up the correct intake gasket at the moment. Once we have the correct gasket the top end should fall together quickly.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Engine is almost together, just trying to round up the correct intake gasket at the moment. Once we have the correct gasket the top end should fall together quickly. I think I see oil drain holes in the corner of the heads,Is that correct.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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i think that ridge is for pushrod tube clearance. Pushrods go through the intake on FE engines. [/quote]
That intake in the picture is NOT a tunnel wedge. My buddy has a set of those and the ports are as big as baseballs with a tube right thru the middle of them on the intake side. The heads are also very large with no tube restrictions. He said they do not really run that well because of the airflow restrictions from the big pushrod tubes. This is still a very nice looking set up. [/quote]
The intake we're using is a tunnel wedge. The intake you are talking about is a tunnel port. [/quote]
My bad Andy. You are correct about it being a tunnel wedge. My typo as i was trying to clear up the statement "the push rods do not go thru the intake port" on those heads or intake. I should have said tunnel port intake. Thanks for sharing this post. Sometimes it is fun to see what other brands have available with out going to Yellow Bullet.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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I can see how the floor vane would direct airflow and create a swirl effect. Would this improve on the low end power, OR the Mid range or top end?
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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I can see how the floor vane would direct airflow and create a swirl effect. Would this improve on the low end power, OR the Mid range or top end? That is my guess but I really don't know. I asked Trick Flow for an explanation on the floor wing but they didn't reply to my email. Which is weird since they sent me the heads for testing.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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Those long exhaust ports are a heat soak, great place for Swain coating.
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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The ridge in the intake port is for flow. They call it a floor wing or a vane. It sits in the low velocity part of the port and helps the mixture make the turn into the valve. At least that is the theory. I suppose Trick Flow did a bunch of flow bench development with and without the wing but they didn't post any of that information on their website so I'm just guessing that they found that it helps. I don't think I've seen a wing like that in any Mopar ports but I've seen it before in some Chevy engines. [/quote] I seem to remember a article in one of the drag magazines years ago about adding dams in the intake manifolds intake ports to aid airflow, I guess it didn't catch on back then I had a hemi motor that had been built by Petty Ent. for a clone NASCAR 1967 Plymouth of Marty Robbins car, it had the big two piece single Dominator flange bathtub NASCAR intake with a bunch of air dams and ridges cut into the floor. That intake had the best fuel distribution as far as the EGT reading(all within 25 F from part throttle loaded at 1300 RPM to WOT) of any motor I've dyno tested Ford had so many variations of the FE race heads it ain't even funny
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Re: New Trick Flow heads for Ford FE
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I admire engines that are not common/mainstream. FE, Desoto Hemi, Nailhead, 409, Wildcat...Polysphere. Not economical to build by any means but many owners are not pinching pennies when paying to have their project built.
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