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BATTERY QUESTION............ #2425465
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After my removing of the second battery in my dart cos it was 11+ years old, I went w/a 1000 cca single battery and as before my 60 ft suffered from a 1.33 to a 1.40 so, can any other battery w/less cca's be added w/out issues or do I need a duplicate of the other........... beer

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Throw the alternator and big battery in the trash.. and by good shocks.. and welcome to the 1.20 60-foot Club.. I went from a 1.25 ish 60 foot to a 1.19 average.. and now the smart people tell me to move the fuel cell to the front too.. it's all in the shock


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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: WHITEDART] #2425474
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Was thinking I could get it done w/the Ranchos as others have but maybe not.......I have to run an alt cos I drive this thing a lot these days testing carbs..........


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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425478
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I no only poking at you and honestly your car sounded great Thursday night


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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425490
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You can add a second batt with less CCA, or you could just add some ballast high left rear as well. Or you could even go with a smaller Lighter bat and figure your true traction issue out and stop throwing weight at it to fix it. up

Without even seeing a launch of your car, I'm guessing the right rear is lifting abit first causing you to spin loosing your 60 ft time. Just a guess really, may not even be close.

Bottom line, no more bats, figure the traction issue out. up

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Just add the weight back in if that is the issue.

Shouldn't be an energy issue unless the alternator is not up to snuff.

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This stuff is challenging for sure but WE will get it figured out but we all have also heard of guys adding 50-100 lbs and going WAY quicker and faster........ work Thankxxx Shilo and this new profiled CNC Dommy is a beast cos I hooked before I installed it.......... laugh2

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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425510
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You just need better shocks.. its not a weight
issue but moving the weight might help you
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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425518
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
This stuff is challenging for sure but WE will get it figured out but we all have also heard of guys adding 50-100 lbs and going WAY quicker and faster........ work Thankxxx Shilo and this new profiled CNC Dommy is a beast cos I hooked before I installed it.......... laugh2


Are you saying that the slower 1.40 was also with a different untested carb?

As far as going faster with more weight, of course its because its a band aid suspension fix. Some need to move weight to the Front to fix a power problem vs to the rear because of a suspension problem.

So you got to run your car just recently, great for you, 5* up here.

Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425520
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What shock are you running White Dart?

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Currently I am running the Viking da shock that can be revalved I can't remember if it was the Crusader or the other one. Off the top of my head.. I just came across a set of menscer shocks for the rear.
So the Viking shocks will be coming up in the parts for sale area here in the next week or so


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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425533
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
After my removing of the second battery in my dart cos it was 11+ years old, I went w/a 1000 cca single battery and as before my 60 ft suffered from a 1.33 to a 1.40 so, can any other battery w/less cca's be added w/out issues or do I need a duplicate of the other........... beer


Well, when we finally get a good run on our first low deck in my car, I will let you know what a good 60ft is...Best with the 440 based was a 1.329 with my pre Thumper carb....

PS we like the red top 900cca battery's. I use just one in each car...But we do use a full size chevy 1-wire alternator.

Also, I spend as much time tuning the front suspension as the rear...This is even more important on a leaf spring car.

Last edited by Dragula; 12/29/17 09:00 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Sport440] #2425550
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I only got one change on the street on the new carb before the track outing but I don't think it's carb related except for maybe needing bigger squirters than the .032's in it now but not 100% and unlike most, I rarely ever need .035's in anything...........This same thing happened a few years ago........removed 2nd battery, and lost 60 ft just like that and last time out w/2 batts, 1.33 on 3 year old 28x10.5 slicks but they had four inches less circumference compared to the QTP 29X13.5'.........I agree about shocks guys but my dumb azz will just get more confused w/all of the adjust ability........ biggrin


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Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Thumperdart] #2425564
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No it won't....

Here is the easy way to think of it...I like DA shocks on both ends.

Start loose. Let the front extend, but not return, let the back compress, but not extend....

So on the front start with the loosest extension and tightest compression, and on the back, the opposite....Softest compression, tightest extension.

The only adjustments I tinker with are how fast the front extends and how fast the rear compresses. Usually, the other adjustments at max work. On a fast car, they will end up pretty stiff.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: BATTERY QUESTION............ [Re: Dragula] #2425573
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I don't think I have ever seen a true leaf spring car squat under acceleration, 4 links yes up But not leaf springs even with Cal Tracs or any of the other traction aids for leaf spring cars confused
All the slow speed videos I've seen of leaf spring cars may have the front rise quicker than the back but the back ends rise along with the front, if they spin they won't rise as much normally shruggy

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