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Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: 68rrunner] #2420346
12/18/17 02:53 PM
12/18/17 02:53 PM
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On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
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what is 'sfc'?


Tom

"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."

-Henry David Thoreau

Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths

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Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: dfsmopars] #2420364
12/18/17 03:28 PM
12/18/17 03:28 PM
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up yours
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They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: Supercuda] #2420388
12/18/17 04:07 PM
12/18/17 04:07 PM
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Ok, thanks.


Tom

"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."

-Henry David Thoreau

Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths

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Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: MuuMuu101] #2420415
12/18/17 05:04 PM
12/18/17 05:04 PM
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NW Chicago suburban area
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a fast car is 75% driver, 15% tires, 5% suspension, 5% other


Well said above... The "nut-behind-the-wheel" is always the biggest influencing factor.


Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: 68rrunner] #2420570
12/18/17 08:21 PM
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Kentucky
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Originally Posted By 68rrunner
I always wanted to fix the core support on that thing, but John wouldn't let me.
Couple of questions/errors I saw for clarification...
-Car runs a Hurst prepped, Bowler rebuilt TKO 600
-Tires are 275/35/18's front; 295/40/18's rear on stock sheet metal
-Last dyno the engine made a whopping 304rwhp. A bit too much cam on the last rebuild unfortunately.
The car REALLY showcases the ability of our cars with these suspensions and the futility of all the coilover/rack setups. Last few Carlisle events one of the fastest cars was running a mildly built /6! I really dug that car. Some of our competitors cars came to play; even with big tires, big power and a talented driver; they couldn't get it together. Some of them that we know are regularly raced just sat on the show field <shrug>
Mufflers are flowmasters with a nascar-style tip welded to the sides of the cans for side exit and the factory hole on the muffler capped. The boom Tubes were being crushed between the SFC and "debris" (cones) from time to time.

Thank you very much. It was such a cool moment when the T/A went by on the PT. It looked and sounded killer as it went by.


‘72 Charger, 5.9 Magnum, Tremec 5 spd., Pro-Touring
‘14 Big Horn, Quad Cab, 4x4, 1500
Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2420725
12/19/17 12:45 AM
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Granite Bay CA
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Originally Posted By Mopar Mitch
a fast car is 75% driver, 15% tires, 5% suspension, 5% other


Well said above... The "nut-behind-the-wheel" is always the biggest influencing factor.


No Kidding.
I drove our "then new" 2015 Challenger at Willow Springs in April 2015. In turn 2, a long U shaped turn, I felt maxed out at 66-67 mph. I let an instructor drive the car with me in the passenger seat. He was doing 80 and the car seemed just as stable. For me, it felt as if I were at the limits of grip. I think he was able to have the increased speed since he entered the turn better with a better line and more speed.

Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: dfsmopars] #2450166
02/11/18 05:09 PM
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Lyons, CO
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A few years back at the MATS, I got to ride along with Mary Pozzi in the emax Challenger. It was quite a blast, and that lady can drive.
I couldn't believe how that car sticks to the road. She freaked me out from the start as she blasted towards the first corner, and never let off the gas! In my mind I was thinking "isn't she going to slow down for this turn", well she didn't have to.

Later in the day I got another ride with her in one of the "new" Camaro's. It was nearly as fast, but just didn't have the feel and sound of raw power that the Challenger did.

That was a fun day.

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Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: Kern Dog] #2450650
02/12/18 01:46 PM
02/12/18 01:46 PM
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Berwyn, IL
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Originally Posted By Frankenduster
Originally Posted By Mopar Mitch
a fast car is 75% driver, 15% tires, 5% suspension, 5% other


Well said above... The "nut-behind-the-wheel" is always the biggest influencing factor.


No Kidding.
I drove our "then new" 2015 Challenger at Willow Springs in April 2015. In turn 2, a long U shaped turn, I felt maxed out at 66-67 mph. I let an instructor drive the car with me in the passenger seat. He was doing 80 and the car seemed just as stable. For me, it felt as if I were at the limits of grip. I think he was able to have the increased speed since he entered the turn better with a better line and more speed.


Not being your car helps too! grin

Re: Hotchkis Challenger [Re: dfsmopars] #2453590
02/18/18 07:21 PM
02/18/18 07:21 PM
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San Jose,CA
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I've riden in it twice, soo much fun! That car was dialed in and a fun little street car. My Charger suspension was rebuilt using some of their parts and hoping to make it live this summer.

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