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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: FastmOp] #2399888
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There are NO chassis cert specifications for a two place Top Fuel dragster. Probably never will be...


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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: theraif] #2399906
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that sticker means absolutely nothing

Everybody signed waivers of everything, or they wouldn't let them in the parking lot.


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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: theraif] #2399918
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Two man TF dragsters may be the wave of the future, Team TF racing. One driver and the other on the throttle, it would interesting. lol


How would've the nhra reacted if it wasn't a big name driver involved? Wouldn't the car have to pass ihra tech before it could make a pass? Dixon has an ihra license too? Was the cert sticker current? If the car was new from end to end, where did the builder get the cert sticker?

My bet is that's it was an old car that was converted to a two seater and the sticker wasn't removed.

Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: justinp61] #2399935
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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: theraif] #2399946
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Sorry that "sticker" does mean something - it should have been removed by the chassis builder when the chassis was modified - It goes along the lines of misrepresentation and fraud. Dixon knew the rules and chose to violate them - now he has the results of his action. He can still go play in IHRA with it. The real issue here is safety for the sport - making a ride-along Top Fuel is pretty much a bad idea from the start and really shows the disrespect of the individual for the profession.

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^^^^ bs

Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: theraif] #2399958
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I agree NHRA has got Dixon on their sh** list. If Dixon presented the car for tech inspection at a NHRA track, just tell him to take it home until it met specs. Since NHRA has no spec for a two person top fuel car, that would be hard to do. I understand they pulled the sticker at SEMA to make a big show of it. Give me a break. I have been allowed to run with a out of date belt and chassis stickers at the end of the season last race etc. Nobody jerked my right to race at a NHRA event for ever. Just told to make it right next time I showed up, which I did.

Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: justinp61] #2399959
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Originally Posted By justinp61
Two man TF dragsters may be the wave of the future, Team TF racing. One driver and the other on the throttle, it would interesting. lol




One driver and one navigator shruggy

Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2399961
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Originally Posted By ScottSmith_Harms
Ride in that thing for 10K? Heck yea!

I'm in for ten! nervous puke panic drive


I'd want the whole 1320', none of that 1000' BS.
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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: theraif] #2399970
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An expired sticker? Seriously? I better remove my expired sticker before someone sees it.


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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: @#$%&*!] #2399973
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Originally Posted By @#$%&*!
Originally Posted By justinp61
Two man TF dragsters may be the wave of the future, Team TF racing. One driver and the other on the throttle, it would interesting. lol




One driver and one navigator shruggy


Nothing to navigate. In a drag race all the driver does is hold the wheel straight and the gas pedal on the floor, right? whistling biggrin

Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: theraif] #2399997
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For those who believe the sticker means nothing, you're wrong. The sticker is proof of inspection and certification by an NHRA employee confirming it meets specs outlined by SFI. If that chassis were to fail and get someone hurt or killed, where do you think the ambulance chasers are going to go? NHRA doesn't play with the SFI tags on anything. The release form you sign when you go to the track isn't worth the paper it's printed on when the crap hits the fan. Guys who have been caught with bogus stickers and tags on belts, helmets, and other stuff have always been dealt with pretty severely. I've seen cars wrecked and an NHRA guy get to the car before it was cleaned up off the track to pull the sticker off. They take it very serious. Any modifications or repairs from the last inspection are supposed to include a re-inspection. Hell, if you grind on a trans shield to make it fit, the SFI tag becomes void and you're liable to get tossed if they catch it.

That said, this punishment for an expired tag seems to be a bit over the top and I'm sure his involvement with IHRA probably didn't score him any "get out of jail" points. Someone should have scraped the damn sticker off somewhere in the process.


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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: justinp61] #2400021
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Originally Posted By justinp61
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Two man TF dragsters may be the wave of the future, Team TF racing. One driver and the other on the throttle, it would interesting. lol




One driver and one navigator shruggy


Nothing to navigate. In a drag race all the driver does is hold the wheel straight and the gas pedal on the floor, right? whistling biggrin


Okay, one driver and one official NHRA spy to look over your shoulder and make sure you don't mumble "IHRA" under your breath while you drive.
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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: CMcAllister] #2400026
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
For those who believe the sticker means nothing, you're wrong. The sticker is proof of inspection and certification by an NHRA employee confirming it meets specs outlined by SFI.


I'm pretty sure the certification is void if the car is modified after inspection and that the sticker is only meaningful in the world of NHRA. The NHRA lawyers would only have to prove the car doesn't meet any specs listed in the rulebook.

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When I wrecked in 2010 a track official and an NHRA inspector came right to my Trailer. (Norwalk) He explained the rules and said they could either pull the sticker or the inspector could check out the damage and possibly let it slide. I opened my trailer doors and said go at it. He climbed around and in the car and said the chassis was fine. I thanked him and they left. The strap on my helmet was cut off before the car left the track by an official


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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: @#$%&*!] #2400075
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Originally Posted By @#$%&*!
Originally Posted By CMcAllister
For those who believe the sticker means nothing, you're wrong. The sticker is proof of inspection and certification by an NHRA employee confirming it meets specs outlined by SFI.


I'm pretty sure the certification is void if the car is modified after inspection and that the sticker is only meaningful in the world of NHRA. The NHRA lawyers would only have to prove the car doesn't meet any specs listed in the rulebook.


Ambulance chaser: "Well Mr. NHRA representative, if it doesn't meet specs, why is your sticker on there saying that you certified that it does? Can you prove that it was altered after your agent certified it? Shouldn't you have reasonably anticipated that modifications may be made in the normal course of the use of that chassis and adjusted your certification process accordingly?"

Stupid people managed to sue GM and win because they had 5 pounds of junk on their key ring and it would rotate the ignition switch and shut the car off while driving. Juries rule in favor of idiots who cause their own problems everyday. The sticker makes NHRA liable for confirming the chassis meets specifications. Why would they haphazardly be OK with leaving themselves open to the whims of a jury who know nothing about any of it? They take all of it seriously and are quite proactive about it.


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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: CMcAllister] #2400119
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Seems a little bit like sour grapes to me. It was at a car show, for goodness sakes. The sticker was expired. It's not like he was trying to enter it in an event. It was in plain sight, obviously, not like he was sneaking something by someone.

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As I understand it, NHRA was concerned that LD was booking rides in the car at SEMA and that the presence of a tag could lead potential customers to assume that the car was in fact certified in that configuration. Liability issue. Had it been scraped off, I don't think there would have been this problem.

I see no reason that LD can't continue to run this car and take folks for rides, as long as he does it at IHRA or outlaw tracks. NHRA can't stop that. They can only prevent him from participating at their events with his legal car.

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Re: NHRA Suspends Larry Dixon Indefinitely [Re: BTBelvedere] #2400180
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Actually I think that the inspection sticker was covered with tape! shruggy Now why would they try to conceal it? It doesn't make any logical sense to me. Peel the damn thing and none of this would be an issue.

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