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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ? [Re: 70blackfish] #470849
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///light the rubber on fire



I like that. Job security!


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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: anlauto] #470850
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Removed the center rubber and sleeve then took a diamond shaped chisel, knocked the top overhang lip in, then drove the chisel down the inside a little. Used a screwdriver and the chisel/drift to collapse the bushing and out it came...


MikeR




YEP....That's exactly how I do it....Ive got it down to about 20 mins for a pair. You need a good press and an air chisel





PITA- took the better part of yesterday to remove both bushings using a damaged cold chisel and air chisel.

Mike / Alan, can you post a pic or list the size chisel you used to get them out? Mike looks like you got them out intact - mine were completely mangled since I could not keep the metal folding over - it just chipped off in small pieces.

I probably messed up the inner surfaces as well


Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ? [Re: 70blackfish] #470851
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thats the way i do it too///light the rubber on fire




Aww now your just braggin.

I have always done it like A-12 describes.

No hammer too small no bushing to hard.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #470852
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I made a tool that I could use to push out the center post from the bushing with a gear puller. This was a length of pipe that slid down on the center post and was held on with the nut. On the pipe I welded two nuts 180 apart this was for the gear puller to grab on to. Turned the lead screw on the puller to force out the center post, once apart. Then use a BFH and chisel to remove the outer metal shell. A cutoff wheel on the center post removes the inner sleeve. Then put the new bushing in the freezer over night and use a press to in stall the new bushing and center post. I will try to post a picture later.

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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: ErikR] #470853
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Removed the center rubber and sleeve then took a diamond shaped chisel, knocked the top overhang lip in, then drove the chisel down the inside a little. Used a screwdriver and the chisel/drift to collapse the bushing and out it came...


MikeR




YEP....That's exactly how I do it....Ive got it down to about 20 mins for a pair. You need a good press and an air chisel





PITA- took the better part of yesterday to remove both bushings using a damaged cold chisel and air chisel.

Mike / Alan, can you post a pic or list the size chisel you used to get them out? Mike looks like you got them out intact - mine were completely mangled since I could not keep the metal folding over - it just chipped off in small pieces.

I probably messed up the inner surfaces as well






Sorry I didn't see this post until a few minutes ago. I used a 3/8" or slightly larger diamond tipped/shape chisel to cut and compress (mangle) the metal bushing like this:

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: A12] #470854
12/21/10 01:55 PM
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Thanks Mike, that helps alot!

I was using a flat cold chisel with a real messed up blade - chips and what not - it was the only hardened steel chisel I had but it just shredded the bushing and did not let the bushing fold in on itself.

Stuipd me - on the next car I will try a nice new diamond tip and see how it goes.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: convx4] #470855
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Beil - sounds like you were smart an made the tool youself.

I used a tool kit from Mancini - the LCA shaft came out easy enough but that outer bushing was what killed me.

Either a new chisel next time or hopefully I'll have a welder and can tack a washer on the outer bushing to press it out.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: ErikR] #2373687
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Originally Posted By ErikR

PITA- took the better part of yesterday to remove both bushings using a damaged cold chisel and air chisel...mine were completely mangled since I could not keep the metal folding over - it just chipped off in small pieces.

I probably messed up the inner surfaces as well...


Well, I know this thread has been stagnant for a while, but I have just done the same - I used a hammer, chisels, and some old school muscle to get mine out. Thanks to the trick with using a Dremel tool to make that initial incision, the rest went reasonably quickly.

Here's my question, though...when I dug out my polyeurethane bushings, I noted that the Energy Suspension kit I have does NOT include the metal sleeves I just worked so hard to remove.

Does anyone know of a source for just the sleeves, or will I have to get a complete set of bushings, (such as MOOG, etc) pull the rubber out, and replace it with the poly?




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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2373729
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Just in case...

First check if the poly bushings are sized to fit without the steel sleeve.

I've seen this on another car when switching from OEM rubber to poly.

Don't know where to get just the steel sleeve.
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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2373805
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Those poly ones that I tried did not use the sleeves. They fit in the open arm just like they come and the pin slips back in. The ones I tried squeaked badly so I pulled mine back out. I was told later they needed to be greased. Keep in mind that if you or the guy before hacked up the smooth surface of either the pin or the lower arm, you need to smooth it out or you will wear out the bushing fast because it will turn slightly with the poly. I never use a torch or chisel on my arms and have removed hundreds of them. Of coarse I'm not a line mechanic trying to see how fast I can take them out to beat the book time either. I've seen some hacked up suspension parts in my day. I press the pin and rubber out first and then cut a groove in the inner sleeve till it gets thin enough to collapse the sleeve on itself gently with a hand chisel. You only have to go about half way down. A cutoff wheel takes the sleeve off the pin.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2374752
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Use a drill and bit to drill into the bushing until it loosens the inner sleeve then just push out the rubber and inner sleeve. Outers still require force


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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2375180
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Once the rubber is out of the way I crank up my welder and put some weld beads inside quickly, I kinda go from end to end and round and round. Once it cools the bushing will fall out. I don't take much.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2375251
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I put the lower control arm in a mill and then slowly walk and end mill into the bushing housing. You can cut the housing down until it is paper thin and then it just peels out of arm without causing any damage to anything.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2375311
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I press out the rubber/inner shell then use a large tap. Put a washer in to protect the tap, use a vise to hold the tap, screw control arm on and press out... easiest way I found. I can't remember the tap size offhand, but got one on ebay brand new for like 15 shipped. One removed, just cut the shell off and do the other side.

I used to do other ways mentioned in the thread... but saw a post here a few year back and tried it this way and won't consider any other way now.


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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: Silver70] #2375350
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Originally Posted By Silver70
I press out the rubber/inner shell then use a large tap. Put a washer in to protect the tap, use a vise to hold the tap, screw control arm on and press out... easiest way I found. I can't remember the tap size offhand, but got one on ebay brand new for like 15 shipped. One removed, just cut the shell off and do the other side.

I used to do other ways mentioned in the thread... but saw a post here a few year back and tried it this way and won't consider any other way now.


1 3/8 inch.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/thre...tration.180315/
Read this from another forum.


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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: hemi71x] #2375361
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Originally Posted By hemi71x
Originally Posted By Silver70
I press out the rubber/inner shell then use a large tap. Put a washer in to protect the tap, use a vise to hold the tap, screw control arm on and press out... easiest way I found. I can't remember the tap size offhand, but got one on ebay brand new for like 15 shipped. One removed, just cut the shell off and do the other side.

I used to do other ways mentioned in the thread... but saw a post here a few year back and tried it this way and won't consider any other way now.


1 3/8 inch.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/thre...tration.180315/
Read this from another forum.



iagree Makes it very easy.

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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2375553
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I have welded a washer to the flange and pressed them out with great success.

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Originally Posted By T2R9
Originally Posted By hemi71x
Originally Posted By Silver70
I press out the rubber/inner shell then use a large tap. Put a washer in to protect the tap, use a vise to hold the tap, screw control arm on and press out... easiest way I found. I can't remember the tap size offhand, but got one on ebay brand new for like 15 shipped. One removed, just cut the shell off and do the other side.

I used to do other ways mentioned in the thread... but saw a post here a few year back and tried it this way and won't consider any other way now.


1 3/8 inch.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/thre...tration.180315/
Read this from another forum.



iagree Makes it very easy.
In fact this is how the factory recommends them to be removed.

Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: RaceCarRegistry] #2375657
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Similar to the large tap, this tool expands inside the bushing and snags it. Then you inch it out with a threaded rod. Takes only a few minutes.

Link. But I bought their multi tool kit years ago and didn't pay that much for the one tool.

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Re: Removal of Lower Control Arm Bushing - Any tricks ???? [Re: kentj340] #2375846
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Any pictures of how to put them back in tricks?

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