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Dual line Milidon oiling system #237039 02/26/09 04:11 PM 02/26/09 04:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge OP I Win
Cab_Burge OP I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	I thought that I would share a little informatiom about those darn dual line Milidon oiling systems I spent the better part of 9 hours making one work, the system had one bad new line, the long one, a bad pump cover that has a internal air leak and a bad connection on the pick up in the oil pan(the customer had assembled the pick up, the new one piece non swiviling steel one pick up, in the pan before I got involved on the project) Luckily the customer had a old system that always worked that was on the bench so we could swap parts around to identify the bad new parts What a waste of time trouble shooting new parts I hope this helps some of you in the future, don't buy the Milidon stuff, use some other brand instead Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Cab_Burge] #237040 02/26/09 04:13 PM 02/26/09 04:13 PM
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EvilB1Dart master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,334 Heaven	Cab, one of the TWIN Rathburg's is about to slap you right about now man! I have used the Milodon setup without issue before. And I also used the INDY setup. I'd prefer the INDY setup if I had to do it again. Wes

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: EvilB1Dart] #237041 02/26/09 04:16 PM 02/26/09 04:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	how did you address the leaking green gasket issue?

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Quicktree] #237042 02/26/09 04:29 PM 02/26/09 04:29 PM
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sc301v enthusiast S Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 364 Kentucky	Not to hijack the thread,but does a indy plate work on a dual milodon pump very well instead of using the cast milodon plate.

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Cab_Burge] #237043 02/26/09 06:31 PM 02/26/09 06:31 PM
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RAT PATROL mopar R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 406 Oregon,USA	I have one on mine. I have blown the filter off it once, blown the green gasket once, what next? Does make for a thrill ride though. 5055376-RATPATROL001.jpg (164 downloads)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Quicktree] #237044 02/26/09 07:59 PM 02/26/09 07:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	Quote: how did you address the leaking green gasket issue? do away with the POS http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/bb/12.html

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Quicktree] #237045 02/26/09 09:20 PM 02/26/09 09:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,229 In The Hills J jughed pro stock
jughed pro stock J Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,229 In The Hills	Quote: how did you address the leaking green gasket issue? the Muscle Motors pump cover cured the problem very nicely. no more PITA green gasket leaks. money well spent!!! http://musclemotorsracing.com/m/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=5

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: jughed] #237046 02/26/09 09:35 PM 02/26/09 09:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA Defbob master
Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	I wanted one of the ones Ted makes, but he no longer makes them I waited too long to order one. they were much nicer than the Muscle Motor's one

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Defbob] #237047 02/26/09 11:47 PM 02/26/09 11:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	Quote: I wanted one of the ones Ted makes, but he no longer makes them was that the one with the hardened steel plate on it?

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: jughed] #237048 02/26/09 11:50 PM 02/26/09 11:50 PM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	Mike do you know what size fitting is in the back of that? is it a -12?

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: jamesc] #237049 02/27/09 12:15 AM 02/27/09 12:15 AM
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Hemi Allstate master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: Quote: I wanted one of the ones Ted makes, but he no longer makes them was that the one with the hardened steel plate on it? Is it these that are no longer available? http://eclecticinnovation.com/pumpcover.html http://marsh-racing.com/Mark%20Mahorney-Allstate.htm 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Hemi Allstate] #237050 02/27/09 12:38 AM 02/27/09 12:38 AM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	that's the one i was talking about

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: jamesc] #237051 02/27/09 08:10 AM 02/27/09 08:10 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,229 In The Hills J jughed pro stock
jughed pro stock J Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,229 In The Hills	Quote: Mike do you know what size fitting is in the back of that? is it a -12? james, it is a 12.

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Hemi Allstate] #237052 02/27/09 08:22 AM 02/27/09 08:22 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA Defbob master
Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: I wanted one of the ones Ted makes, but he no longer makes them was that the one with the hardened steel plate on it? Is it these that are no longer available? http://eclecticinnovation.com/pumpcover.html That's the one. I was told by a friend of his that he stopped making them.

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Cab_Burge] #237053 02/27/09 09:52 AM 02/27/09 09:52 AM
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atoetly pro stock A Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,226 Peoples republic of clackamas ...	Cab I took other peoples advise and removed the filter adaptor and drilled and taped for AN fittings and a remote oil filter. With my new front suspension I will now be able to run a dual line system and the new block as the provisions to run a line right to the block. 5056860-4059207-12-27-2007-15.jpg (122 downloads)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: atoetly] #237054 02/27/09 10:03 AM 02/27/09 10:03 AM
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rtstreet mopar Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 416 Eagleville Tn.	i had problems with the milodon loosing prime. Andy Mayes www.mayesperformance.com

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: rtstreet] #237055 02/27/09 10:45 AM 02/27/09 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn.	I use a Milodon duel line setup and never have had a problem. I use a static pickup in the bottom of the 12 quart pan. I also use a blueprinted hi volume melling pump with the Milodon bottom plate and cover and filter adapter. I use the good original milodon gasket between the pump cover and oil filter adapter. I've always had instant oil pressure on startup, even after an oil and filter change. Dave

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: quickd100] #237056 02/27/09 01:19 PM 02/27/09 01:19 PM
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440sourcedotcom super stock Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 741 Carson City, NV	We are now making billet external pumps. Take a look. http://www.440source.com/oilpumps.htm

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Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system #237058 02/27/09 03:51 PM 02/27/09 03:51 PM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	how is the steel plate sealed to the cover and is it certain they're not going to be made anymore?

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Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system #237060 02/27/09 04:38 PM 02/27/09 04:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,073 Tulsa, Ok WadeMetzinger top fuel
WadeMetzinger top fuel Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,073 Tulsa, Ok	I've been running the Milidon external for 6 or more years with any any issues nor have I ever replaced the green gasket. I do check to make sure the allen headed fasteners are tight when I have the oil filter off. The negative reports make me nervous but I haven't had any problems...(yet) Wade Metzinger 918-809-0987 71 Cuda 9.28@145 -1s, Pglide 68 Cuda 10.64@124 1.45 60's 318->390 eddys Moparts discount code on WIX - moparts www.Filter1.com

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system #237061 02/27/09 05:34 PM 02/27/09 05:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Quote: Quote: We are now making billet external pumps. Take a look. http://www.440source.com/oilpumps.htm Nice options out there. I've been running the billet oil pump cover with the hardened steel plate. No issues. its a shame they don't make them anymore, its a nice part. Wish I would have picked up one when they were available..One thing about the Indy cover, milodon, or Muscle motors cover, being aluminum they were faster than you would ever expect. I guess when it gets pretty grooved up, it can be surfaced/planed etc. I bet the stainless would were next to none compare to the aluminum counter part. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system #237062 02/27/09 06:21 PM 02/27/09 06:21 PM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	yea Dave that's what i figured. i sent them email asking if they were going to make another batch but from the posts here i guess not. i never liked the idea of running the pump gears against aluminum and only use the milodon pump for it's external entry, i prefer iron pumps.

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: WadeMetzinger] #237063 02/27/09 06:41 PM 02/27/09 06:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: I've been running the Milidon external for 6 or more years with any any issues nor have I ever replaced the green gasket. I do check to make sure the allen headed fasteners are tight when I have the oil filter off. The negative reports make me nervous but I haven't had any problems...(yet) by the time you figure out the gasket had blown you made be looking at a wall? how lucky do you feel?

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Quicktree] #237064 02/27/09 06:57 PM 02/27/09 06:57 PM
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hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	OKAY, you guys have me spooked now! I've ordered a Hemi from RBRE & they're in the process now of starting to piece it together. At my request they're outfitting it with a Milodon system since I didn't have any problems with my previous one. SOOO with all these alleged problems, what do you guys recommend. the thing's going in a Dart with an engineplate & stock front suspension, so space IS kind of an issue.

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: hemicop] #237065 02/27/09 07:11 PM 02/27/09 07:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge OP I Win
Cab_Burge OP I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	I was told that RBRE has thier own system that is fool proof, according to Bob Mazzolini Call RBRE and ask them about thier system and see if you may like it better. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Cab_Burge] #237066 02/27/09 07:13 PM 02/27/09 07:13 PM
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hemicop super stock H Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,141 Phoenix,Az.	Okay, thanks. He onlt mentioned it in passing so I thought it was unavailible or something......

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: RAT PATROL] #237067 02/28/09 01:01 AM 02/28/09 01:01 AM
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EJ440 member E Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 110	Mine blew the oil filter off and I went in to the wall!! coming back together now after 3years 5058750-demonrebuild025.jpg (105 downloads)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: EJ440] #237068 02/28/09 01:11 AM 02/28/09 01:11 AM
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Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: EJ440] #237069 02/28/09 01:12 AM 02/28/09 01:12 AM
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Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	Quote: Mine blew the oil filter off and I went in to the wall!! coming back together now after 3years System One filters 5058772-09-111(2).JPG (128 downloads)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Bigbeep] #237070 02/28/09 01:20 AM 02/28/09 01:20 AM
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EJ440 member E Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 110	Got one on the way . This was about the the 8th pass with this new motor. 5058786-demonrebuild020.jpg (115 downloads)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: EJ440] #237071 02/28/09 01:29 AM 02/28/09 01:29 AM
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Bigbeep super stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,165 Central Ohio, USA	Quote: Got one on the way . This was about the the 8th pass with this new motor. You won't be disappointed. They are easy to pull apart and inspect also. I could detect the the fibers from rags used when I adjust the valves and wipe things off at the track and chips of paint off of the valve springs when torn down for inspection. Especially nice on fresh builds as well. Beep 5058810-09-111(2).JPG (119 downloads)

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Bigbeep] #237072 02/28/09 09:37 AM 02/28/09 09:37 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA Defbob master
Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	I have a vintage Milodon system that has a replacement green gasket and isn't the gasket made out of kevlar?? Milodon says because of how slick it is it has the potential to drip, but they also emphasize making sure the two bolt are torqued down properly.

Re: Dual line Milidon oiling system [Re: Defbob] #237073 02/28/09 11:37 AM 02/28/09 11:37 AM
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go green super stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 778 Sherwood park, Alberta.	I battled with the Milodon system for years . I works good when it works . Spinning the engine over and not have oil pressure is acceptable. I now have a Plueger oil pump .RCD sells them for $720. CNC Machined from billet 7075-T6 aluminum and hard anodized for wear resistance. Computer designed passages, chambers and porting provide exact requirements with proper timing and flow. Heat treated chrome-moly Gerotor gears. Complete systems engineered for funny cars and dragsters each with stainless steel swept bend tubing and fittings. Systems available with barbed fittings for slip-on rubber hose or with AN fittings for braided hose. All pump fittings have been computer designed and machined to provide maximum flow at minimum weight. Standard AN fittings are not used because of their stepped interiors which restrict flow. Each pump is flow tested and pressure checked 5059274-wets2.jpg (112 downloads) 6.50 @ 226 MPH 4.25 @ 186 MPH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX86DHGKBo0

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