That will happen with no lube on the gasket...IMO.

We're not talking about "big trucks" though, are we?


Over 45 years doing this crap.
Its not rocket surgery.
I have never seen one filter mfg suggest using a filter wrench to install a spin on filter ON A PASSENGER VEHICLE.

There are DIRECTIONS??? someplace?

And some people can't turn a filter 3/4 turn by hand. So, use a wrench as needed.

Exactly.

When someone says never a wrench needed I think of trucks, excuse me.

Yup. Always check the old filter to make sure the gasket came off with it.

I did that one time when the car was parked on a slight incline. I started it and hopped back out and noticed oil running out from right behind the front tire. Dove back in and shut it off. Big nessy mess to clean up, but didn't hurt the engine.

I was taught to run a film of oil around the rubber sealing ring and hand screw it snug with one hand only.

I was taught to use fresh oil on a new filter gasket.
It's already there when I fill the filter.
Never used the wrench to tighten 'em.
Always needed one to remove 'em.

Only time I had a filter isues was...
You guessed it the old gasket was still there.
I only needed to do that once.

I'm a Toyota forklift tech and I like that the OEM Toyota filters come with plastic over the end of the filter with the right amount of grease. I've never seen that with any other filter manufacturer. I've done plenty of oil changes in my career and hand tight has never failed me for regular automotive. I've also worked on big trucks and I agree they need a little more torque I was a fan of the old strap wrench.

For automotive / light truck oil changes, I always hand tighten so they are SNUG - probably 3/4 turn after the gasket makes contact. I use a coating of drain oil to lubricate the new gasket. I've also experienced the dreaded double gasket debacle on my old (new) 96 Ram back when it was a couple years old. In the driveway of course. Started it up & heard a gurgling noise & oil streaming onto the ground - shut it off immediately. No problems - just a mess.

Thank god us as a group here are not responsible for world peace.

Id just like to see more pics of that dart!

Well my hand-tightening didn't quite work...i am not strong enough I suppose...another 4+ quarts on the ground. Arrgh! Got a K&N with the nut at the top and used a wrench to tighten it up - all is good now except for all the oil in the engine compartment.

I'll take some pics of the Dart - it's an interesting one. All black 69 GTS 383 auto stripe delete. Kind of a factory sleeper.

sounds like the oil pump relief valve is stuck, need to pull it out & clean it out.

Was it knocking prior to the spill?

Yeah, something ain't right. I'm not getting into the wrench/no wrench or manufacturers instructions debate, but you don't need to be Hercules to tighten an oil filter sufficiently. If it's dumping oil like that after a good hand tightening, something else is going on. Don't let it ruin your motor! Do you have an oil pressure gauge?

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