Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: D149]
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08/22/17 06:46 PM
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Thanks for all the recommendations guys! I am going to think it over for a bit, then decide.
As for the fuel injection talk. I like the system overall, but I could never get the car to start and idle when cold. I talked to the guys at FAST and they said the cam in the engine is borderline too big for the EZ 1.0. I tried the adjustment and software upgrades they recommended, but the car still dies when started. Once it is running and warmed up the car runs great. Throttle response is incredible.
The pump that died was included in the kit from FAST and is mounted on the frame rail. That is what killed the pump. There was no "easy" in tank setups at the time I bought the system. There are lots now.
I'm not getting rid of the EZ EFI. It will be installed on another vehicle with a milder cam.
Thanks again.
1968 Valiant Signet 4dr. 273 4spd 1969 Road Runner 383 4spd 1969 Barracuda 318 auto 1970 Dart Swinger 340 4spd 1975 Cordoba 400-4bbl 1988 Caravelle 318 Auto 1999 Dakota R/T 2000 Viper GTS 2001 Ram 2500 Diesel 6spd 2018 Dodge Challenger GT (Winter beater!)
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: D149]
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08/23/17 01:16 AM
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The Holley Ultra Street Avenger is a decent carb. I had one on the 505" stroker before going to port EFI. I wanted a street carb with electric choke and vacuum secondary. As I recall, it had billet metering blocks, but pressed in restrictions, not screw in restrictions like most billet metering blocks. The idle restrictors were a bit small for my application, but other than that, it was a good carb.
If you don't need a choke and looking for more of a race carb, the HP carbs are nice. I have an old 1,000 cfm vacuum secondary HP carb (no longer listed by Holley) that was really close out of the box for the old 451 stroker combination, and worked good on the 500" stroker too.
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: 383man]
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08/24/17 01:32 PM
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I have run a few different carbs over the years but I gotta say I do like how nice the Holley 750 to 850 Double pumper works. I run the Holley 850 DP street version that had a choke which I removed but of all the carbs I have used I really like it. I only did a few minor mods to it because it just works so nice. Works fine at the track and has great driveability on the street. We run a Holley 750 DP on my sons 400 Dart and he loves it. We have had 3 different carbs on it and he always goes back to the 750 DP because it just works so good on his combo. I am sure I can go faster with a Dominator or one of the race carbs but for all around performance and driveability I love the 850 DP on my 63. Ron I know that with a "Properly" tuned 1050 Dommy, you'd be amazed how street-able(Dragweek)they can be and throttle response and mid/upper power is eye opening...........
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: D149]
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08/24/17 02:20 PM
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If you're not going to use a Thumper carb, call BLP and just buy a carb.
Have messed with injection for years, I'd rather have a carb or carbs.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: D149]
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08/24/17 10:40 PM
08/24/17 10:40 PM
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Dragula
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Thanks for all the recommendations guys! I am going to think it over for a bit, then decide.
As for the fuel injection talk. I like the system overall, but I could never get the car to start and idle when cold. I talked to the guys at FAST and they said the cam in the engine is borderline too big for the EZ 1.0. I tried the adjustment and software upgrades they recommended, but the car still dies when started. Once it is running and warmed up the car runs great. Throttle response is incredible.
The pump that died was included in the kit from FAST and is mounted on the frame rail. That is what killed the pump. There was no "easy" in tank setups at the time I bought the system. There are lots now.
I'm not getting rid of the EZ EFI. It will be installed on another vehicle with a milder cam.
Thanks again. Wow...Just ignored my post about timing curve completely...Didn't hear a word I said....Ok...
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: D149]
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08/25/17 04:28 PM
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I would have thought you guys had been on the old interwebz long enough by now that you'd gotten thicker skins.
You offer some advice or guidance, or an opinion..... No one says the ones doing the asking are going to use your suggestion.
Once in a while I might feel strongly enough about something I posted to argue the point, but for the most part...... You asked....... I answered.... That's it. The advice or recommendations I give are "what I would do", and I'm usually pretty confident I could get good results from it. As with most things...... YMMV.
Please continue on with your regularly scheduled thread......
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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08/25/17 05:53 PM
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BradH
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I would have thought you guys had been on the old interwebz long enough by now that you'd gotten thicker skins. Oh, I have. In fact, my doctor told me I should lose another 40#s of it during my last physical. "Please continue on with your regularly scheduled thread..." x2
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: BradH]
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08/26/17 12:22 AM
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Wow...Just ignored my post about timing curve completely...Didn't hear a word I said....Ok... Sometimes I've posted really solid advice & guidance to people that addresses their questions, only to have them keep looking for another answer that matches what they want to hear. It's part of why I don't bother posting nearly as much on here as I used to... Sometimes I'm truly amazed by some of the replys I see on Moparts. I was once told "good luck with your build, your gonna need it". This was because I brushed moly on aluminum caps before installing them into the blocks cap registers!!!! I must admit however, I find it highly entertaining
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: BradH]
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08/27/17 03:12 AM
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383man
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I would have thought you guys had been on the old interwebz long enough by now that you'd gotten thicker skins. Oh, I have. In fact, my doctor told me I should lose another 40#s of it during my last physical. "Please continue on with your regularly scheduled thread..." x2 Myself I only try to offer some help when I feel I know enough about the subject to even say anything that may help the poster but I see in many post where the poster gets alot of good info that goes ignored. And it seems many times they keep asking until they get the answer they were looking for in the first place and just wanted to here someone else say the same even if its wrong to make them feel better but ignore the right info that may really help them. And I am not referring to this post so please do not get upset with me as I just mean I see that sometimes on some post but I am not talking about this one. Ron
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Re: Carb recommendation
[Re: Thumperdart]
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08/27/17 03:21 AM
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383man
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I have run a few different carbs over the years but I gotta say I do like how nice the Holley 750 to 850 Double pumper works. I run the Holley 850 DP street version that had a choke which I removed but of all the carbs I have used I really like it. I only did a few minor mods to it because it just works so nice. Works fine at the track and has great driveability on the street. We run a Holley 750 DP on my sons 400 Dart and he loves it. We have had 3 different carbs on it and he always goes back to the 750 DP because it just works so good on his combo. I am sure I can go faster with a Dominator or one of the race carbs but for all around performance and driveability I love the 850 DP on my 63. Ron I know that with a "Properly" tuned 1050 Dommy, you'd be amazed how street-able(Dragweek)they can be and throttle response and mid/upper power is eye opening........... I wont disagree with you as you have run and worked with alot of Dominators. Myself I have never run one on my street cars and have only driven a few race cars with them. Actually I have never had a Dominator on any of my cars including race cars. But thats because most all my cars have been mild builds as it seems most of my life I was married with kids and just never had the money to build anything nasty. To be honest my 63 is the most modified eng I have ever run and is the first build of mine that I have ever used aftermarket aluminum heads on. I worked on some for others but all my other builds have been factory cast iron heads that I did my own head work on. I had to stay within my budget. Course thats why I dont have a Dominator on my car and have not tried one yet. But I do love how good the 850 drives and works on my car. I really hope to try a Dominator one day and I hope it dont eat to much more gas but I am sure it will. But like I say if I am worried about gas milage then I am in the wrong hobby. Ron
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