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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2428983
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Well Id look to keep the front wheel as narrow as possible. Weld sells 17" front race wheels as well as other...

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2429005
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I'm thinking I'll use a 17x6 wheel with a 205/55-17 tire but I haven't nailed it down yet. The car had a 15x6 wheel on it before with a 205/60-15 tire so my new combo will be roughly the same, just a little taller. I thought the old tires were a little too short.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2429006
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I was reading over the post and initially you were going to get it running and sell it. Has the goal changed?

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: Dave Hall] #2429165
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Originally Posted By Dave Hall
I was reading over the post and initially you were going to get it running and sell it. Has the goal changed?


Let's just say the goal posts have moved. Sponsor money means I need to put a lot more effort into the project.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2431403
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Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By Dave Hall
I was reading over the post and initially you were going to get it running and sell it. Has the goal changed?


Let's just say the goal posts have moved. Sponsor money means I need to put a lot more effort into the project.


Sponsor money??,, Just where have the Goal Posts moved to. I hope that means not only adding a lot of Sponsored parts, but using all those combined parts and maybe running this Duster down the track.

Your engine building Hp producing dyno skills are Stellar. Maybe we will get to see your skills of applying that Hp down the track in the sponsored Duster???

I hope that's where the new Goal Post has moved smile up .

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2431866
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Originally Posted By AndyF
Decided to install a new Strange pinion yoke with an 8 magnet trigger wheel. This will give me driveshaft speed as well as a signal for the speedometer. Maybe even an odometer? Or I might use GPS for the odometer, not sure yet.

One problem I ran into is that this pinion yoke is 1/2 inch longer than the yoke that was on there so now I'll need to shorten my brand new driveshaft.


Couldn't you just move the rear back 1/4" and the drivetrain forward 1/4" and not cut that beautiful drive shaft shruggy Just put a spacer on the front spring hanger and call it good twocents

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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: fourgearsavoy] #2431929
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[quote=fourgearsavoy][quote=AndyF]Decided to install a new Strange pinion yoke with an 8 magnet trigger wheel. This will give me driveshaft speed as well as a signal for the speedometer. Maybe even an odometer? Or I might use GPS for the odometer, not sure yet.


No need to use a GPS for the odometer. The same trigger wheels signal sent to a Electronic programmable speedometer actuates both MPH and odometer miles. You may even be able to Share the signal from just one pick up to feed your both your Electronic Speedometer and your other driveshaft race pac system.

Autometer sells Electronic programmable speedometers. The one I bought was the ATM 1388, for like 130 bucs. registered MPH and odometer miles with the same signal. Installed it on a 38ft, oil well swab truck, Pretty trick for a rig like that.


Further, programing it wasn't that complicated as you would think. You would think that you would have to consider Rear gear ratio and tire size, to figure all the math out.

Nope, all that was needed was to go measure out a mile with a vehicle and mark it, then get at the start line, with the rig, hit the programming button on the speedo, and drive to the measured mile, re hit the program button, and you done. .



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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: fourgearsavoy] #2432054
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Originally Posted By fourgearsavoy
Originally Posted By AndyF
Decided to install a new Strange pinion yoke with an 8 magnet trigger wheel. This will give me driveshaft speed as well as a signal for the speedometer. Maybe even an odometer? Or I might use GPS for the odometer, not sure yet.

One problem I ran into is that this pinion yoke is 1/2 inch longer than the yoke that was on there so now I'll need to shorten my brand new driveshaft.


Couldn't you just move the rear back 1/4" and the drivetrain forward 1/4" and not cut that beautiful drive shaft shruggy Just put a spacer on the front spring hanger and call it good twocents

Gus beer


I couldn't think of a good alternative to cutting the driveshaft so I shipped it back to Strange. They only charge $80 to shorten the driveshaft so I figured that was the cost I had to pay for changing my mind.

The engine and rear end location are fairly well locked in at this point. The headers are so big that they dictate where the engine has to be and the rear leaf hangers have been welded into the frame so there is no easy way to move them. The rear tires are very large and the tubs were built around them so I don't think I want to move the rear axle.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: Sport440] #2432198
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Originally Posted By Sport440
[quote=fourgearsavoy][quote=AndyF]Decided to install a new Strange pinion yoke with an 8 magnet trigger wheel. This will give me driveshaft speed as well as a signal for the speedometer. Maybe even an odometer? Or I might use GPS for the odometer, not sure yet.


No need to use a GPS for the odometer. The same trigger wheels signal sent to a Electronic programmable speedometer actuates both MPH and odometer miles. You may even be able to Share the signal from just one pick up to feed your both your Electronic Speedometer and your other driveshaft race pac system.

Autometer sells Electronic programmable speedometers. The one I bought was the ATM 1388, for like 130 bucs. registered MPH and odometer miles with the same signal. Installed it on a 38ft, oil well swab truck, Pretty trick for a rig like that.


Further, programing it wasn't that complicated as you would think. You would think that you would have to consider Rear gear ratio and tire size, to figure all the math out.

Nope, all that was needed was to go measure out a mile with a vehicle and mark it, then get at the start line, with the rig, hit the programming button on the speedo, and drive to the measured mile, re hit the program button, and you done. .




I haven't figured out the programming end of it yet but the plan at the moment is to run this car without any gauges. I'll just use the digital dash from the EFI system and push all of the data thru it. So the digital dash will have driveshaft RRP and a speedo if I can figure it out and an odometer if I can figure it out.

I've torn out the dash and will not install anything other than a bracket for the LCD. I think I'll also have a starter button and a ignition switch and maybe a headlight switch. Everything else will be controlled by the EFI.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2433138
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the holley efi and dash uses a seperate gps piece that mounts on the dash for the speedo doesent it?

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2438355
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I got a new Car Craft magazine yesterday with the what I think is the first installment of Andy's "Dustbin Duster" series.

As you would expect it is well written with lots of photos, many of which Andy has shared with us here.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2438368
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That's a pretty good plug for Car Craft. Now i'm going to go out and buy a copy.


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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2438379
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The Holley digital dash has the odometer function built in as long as you have a driveshaft signal.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2438414
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I have a driveshaft signal and a new EFI product to add to the list. I tooled up a stainless steel bracket that bolts to the Dana 60 pinion snubber mount and holds a Holley flying magnet sensor.

One odd thing is the Holley instructions for the 554-125 sensor have been updated and now say to not use that sensor as a driveshaft sensor. I wonder why they did that? If the driveshaft has a flying magnet on it then it seems like it would work just fine.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2438439
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They are probably concerned about the magnet setup. The one that comes with the 554-125 is heavy and you should really have at lease 2 magnets. Just hard to set up.

I always use the FAST 301436 (2 magnet) or one of the ones from Motorsprts Innovations.
http://www.motorsportsinnovations.com/Holley/holley-efi-sensors.html

Or if you really want resolution go 18 pulses per rev from:
https://www.motionraceworks.com/uploads/5/3/8/0/53809729/motion-raceworks-dsss-instructions.pdf


Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: Mopar_Rich] #2439233
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I poked around the forums a little more and it looks like the MSD 2348 sensor is the way to go. It is slightly bigger 1/2 inch thread but it is fairly inexpensive at $60 and it has a built in LED which tells you if it is working or not. So I'm going to order one of those and see how it works.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2440309
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Got the Holley fuel pump today and mounted it in the fuel cell. I think this is a slick setup. Cleans up the trunk area for sure.

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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2440479
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andy, what does the knob on the top of the pump do ?
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Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2440541
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Power knob!

Actually that is the fill port. Just big enough for a funnel or a nozzle on a gas station pump.

Re: Starting to work on the Duster [Re: AndyF] #2440551
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Originally Posted By AndyF
Power knob!

Actually that is the fill port. Just big enough for a funnel or a nozzle on a gas station pump.


Looks like a great set up Andy. Did you get the 450L pump and did it come with the Fuel line fittings?


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