R5 Crank adapter fab question
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I am getting ready to make my R5 crank adapter. My question is does it need to be 4340 steel? OR can it be 1045 steel? It will be .375 thick. This engine will be around 850 hp 560 tq. Just want to make sure this will be strong enough. Thanks
Last edited by R5P7Duster; 02/26/09 07:44 PM.
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Re: Crank adapter fab question
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This is a true engineering question. I am to guess that bolts will thread into this adapter from one side, and bolts from the flywheel or flex plate will thread into it from the other side? If this is just a "spacer" and the bolts go all the way thru then any mild steel would even do. But assuming as stated above I will also assume 6 bolts will go each way, 7/16 bolts, grade 8 from each side. Even with this scenario, the 1045 will be good providing there is at least a minimum of , say. 0.250 between the holes from one side to the other. Now if there is like 8 bolts then that separation difference can be far less and once again even mild steel would probably be acceptable. Also, unless you can power tap this with some serious machine, and machining knowledge out of a professional manufacturer with experience with this steel, you probably can't do it. Hand taping those holes in the 4340 is going to be very difficult (if you can do it without breakage). Once again even the 1045 ain't going to be fun. So, from me, I would go with the 1045, but I don't have all your info. Also, if this is for an automatic, you have far less shock loads that with a stick, and that should factor in as well.
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Re: Crank adapter fab question
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Maybe, depends on how thick it is. I'd have to see the design before I knew which material would work. The bolts are going to transmit the torque, not the spacer so aluminum should be fine. Only problem is if the spacer is fairly thick since then the flywheel could start to whip around. If the spacer is less than 1/2 inch thick then I think aluminum would be fine.
I haven't received the Mid plate yet to measure thickness. But it should be right around .375" We are turning this piece on a lathe, so there shouldn't be any reason for it to be off centered and cause harmonic problems.
Thanks for your input. My engine machinst is worried about the aluminum. Strength wise and the difference in expansion rates? Will this be an issue?
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