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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2315148
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Back to the question FED asked, any news?
Anybody that was owed a block get one yet?

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2315207
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Talked to Tim this am. Things have not transitioned as smooth as it was expected. Foundry problems still. They appear to be ironed out. If that is the case I would expect to hear blocks are rolling out soon. Appears only a few blocks have made it thru. If things were good there would be more info and pictures.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: WedgeFED] #2315223
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Boy and someone (I won't mention his name) was just saying work on the gen 3 Hemi block was right around the corner. Let's get this one straightened out first please.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2315252
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Nobody but you said gen 3 was right around the corner but there are plans for it

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: The Shadow] #2315274
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Originally Posted By The Shadow
Nobody but you said gen 3 was right around the corner but there are plans for it



I plan on buying new underwair someday to but I'm rolling the dice these hold out another year or two.


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: pittsburghracer] #2315314
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By The Shadow
Nobody but you said gen 3 was right around the corner but there are plans for it



I plan on buying new underwair someday to but I'm rolling the dice these hold out another year or two.

Underwair?

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: The Shadow] #2315315
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Dam spellcheck. LOL


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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: pittsburghracer] #2315316
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By The Shadow
Nobody but you said gen 3 was right around the corner but there are plans for it



I plan on buying new underwair someday to but I'm rolling the dice these hold out another year or two.



If they go bad before then the dice will be rolling all the time!

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2315410
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I never thought we would be talking underwear in the race tech section. It's come a long ways.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: killermopar] #2315895
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Originally Posted By killermopar
I never thought we would be talking underwear in the race tech section. It's come a long ways.



Well, when we are talking blocks, it's always a crap shoot.

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: Biginchmopar] #2316778
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Originally Posted By Biginchmopar
Back to the question FED asked, any news?
Anybody that was owed a block get one yet?


So nothing is being said I take it that nobody has received there blocks yet?

Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2316807
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Either that, or they've been sworn to secrecy.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: Biginchmopar] #2316811
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my take is, the principles are working to build the best block possible and not setting a deadline

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Originally Posted By Superfreak
Originally Posted By killermopar
I never thought we would be talking underwear in the race tech section. It's come a long ways.



Well, when we are talking blocks, it's always a crap shoot.


The time line is elastic.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: GY3] #2316815
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They took on a big project. If it takes 6 extra months to get it right, lets get it right. I never thought I would see a day when you could make a phone call to Keith Black Racing, order a block, and have it in your hands in under 30 days. Now I just may see it.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: pittsburghracer] #2316861
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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: GY3] #2317126
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Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By Superfreak
Originally Posted By killermopar
I never thought we would be talking underwear in the race tech section. It's come a long ways.



Well, when we are talking blocks, it's always a crap shoot.


The time line is elastic.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: RBRE] #2317463
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If and that is a big if I have time on Wednesday I will drive up the street and talk to Tim about the Blocks, if he is there at his house. I do not know if it is any ones Business but the people that ordered a block from KB and paid for them and have not received them, so if I ask Tim about it he might say that it was before his time or maybe even Tim had money down on blocks and did not get any and that is why he stepped up just like others could of and other did. I believe a lot of the manufacturing processes are being modernized and this might be why there are delays now.

Glad to see Ray Barton has given his OK to the new KB BLock. He is a Dealer and I believe Tim asked him to be one and why would Tim not do that. There all in this to build motors and getting blocks was one big problem and like it was said by RBREs maybe Chrysler needs to step up with a good cast iron replacement block or better for Street and Super Stock Racers.


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Re: Keith Black Blocks available from Ray Barton Racing Engines [Re: pittsburghracer] #2317607
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
They took on a big project. If it takes 6 extra months to get it right, lets get it right. I never thought I would see a day when you could make a phone call to Keith Black Racing, order a block, and have it in your hands in under 30 days. Now I just may see it.

I don't think "one" should have to order a block, it should be on a shelf somewhere waiting for one to buy it! I'm not saying hundreds but at least 10-20 at the main wharehouse so it could be there in days. But that's how you keep the price up, never overstock, make it seem like they're hard to get. Does seem strange how many sbc, bbc, pontac plus the Ford blocks are so plentifull, who's foundry are they using? Maybe their machining processes are more simple.?? Here's a idea, make one size block, then YOU take it to some machine shop to make it whatever, like Chrysler sold at one time.

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Cudaman, Keith Black was basically finished. Everything with that Business had come to a stand still, foundry, machining on and on. The guys involved had to rebuild Keith Black from the ground up, had to get everyone back on board like the foundry. Since no blocks were produced for a very long time it has taken longer than normal to get everyone back on board and up grade to modern manufacturing and business practices.

The blocks are starting to show up now. Saw a few new KBs today at Bannings. He said it is taking much longer that was expected and there are a lot of people wanting the blocks and also the people that had bought from KB and laid their money down, looks like they will receive their blocks also. As for inventory of blocks laying around in a warehouse, I do not see that happening for a while. Tim told me if I want a block I better get my name in for one or it will be next year because of the demand and all the other things like filling old orders and new orders.

Now the KB is one good looking block and from what I have seen could take all that you can build into it. Indy block from what I know from the guys that live near me are having trouble running 1400 HP without them coming apart. It looks like the new KB will be able to take that HP very easily and a lot more.


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