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Just Lost my .590 cam #2316177
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Now the search for a newer & better cam is required
I race a 408 stroker with KB744 pistons and Eddy heads with Hughes 1111 springs
The 590 cam worked great for years but when i changed the lifters to EDM style i had a lobe go on me
Yes i did do the proper break in again but this is the second in many years i lost a MP cam when making changes to them
Car is a 77 Aspen R/T with 904 trans 5000 stall & 4.30 gears
Usually ran 10.80-10.90


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Go roller. .650 lift will be a nice pick up if you have a good converter.

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iagree Been streetin a good sized Isky solid roller .680.660 276-281 @ .050 for years and love it........... thumbs


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Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: 77DragracerR/T] #2316225
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I have a 590 cam for sale and lifters all matched to the cam less then 1k miles on it

Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: scottb] #2316253
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I used it since 09 and it did run a best of 10.76 but i need something more up to date


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya3Ue8KoZk
Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: FastmOp] #2316255
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I have a 5000 TCS converter in there but not sure if i would have enough V/P clearance with that lift?


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Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: 77DragracerR/T] #2316297
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Do I understand this correctly, the 590 was fine, you switched to "the best thing since sliced bread" lifter, and wiped a lobe. Is that correct?

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Originally Posted By BSB67
Do I understand this correctly, the 590 was fine, you switched to "the best thing since sliced bread" lifter, and wiped a lobe. Is that correct?


I guess this is one of those instances where two people interpret the same situation two different ways.

I heard, "I put new lifters on my 8 year old cam and it wiped a lobe".

Which made me think......."why would one try and put new lifters on a well used cam"?


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I have added a couple of things to my list that I got away with years ago but will NEVER try again.

1. I will never buy a used solid lift cam.
2. I will NEVER take a good used solid lift cam from one block and install it in a new build. (different block)


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I have added a couple of things to my list that I got away with years ago but will NEVER try again.

1. I will never buy a used solid lift cam.
2. I will NEVER take a good used solid lift cam from one block and install it in a new build. (different block)


ME; I will NEVER buy ANY solid lifter cam for ANYTHING...........problem solved.......... biggrin

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Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: Thumperdart] #2316567
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I have added a couple of things to my list that I got away with years ago but will NEVER try again.

1. I will never buy a used solid lift cam.
2. I will NEVER take a good used solid lift cam from one block and install it in a new build. (different block)


ME; I will NEVER buy ANY solid lifter cam for ANYTHING...........problem solved.......... biggrin



I haven't totally given up on them. I've gone low 9.50's in my small block with them so they have their place.


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Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: Thumperdart] #2316575
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I have added a couple of things to my list that I got away with years ago but will NEVER try again.

1. I will never buy a used solid lift cam.
2. I will NEVER take a good used solid lift cam from one block and install it in a new build. (different block)


ME; I will NEVER buy ANY solid lifter cam for ANYTHING...........problem solved.......... biggrin


I use a solid lifter (tool steel) in my RBRE 496 ci.
Gone 9.08 @ 146, I have thought about a roller. Maybe when I want to hit the 8s?

Don

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Good #`s and obviously they work as you and others have proven just never again for me personally............ beer


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That .590 cam was good in its day, which was at least 30 years ago. There is so much better out there now. I went roller awhile back and will never look back.


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Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: fast68plymouth] #2316969
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Originally Posted By BSB67
Do I understand this correctly, the 590 was fine, you switched to "the best thing since sliced bread" lifter, and wiped a lobe. Is that correct?


I guess this is one of those instances where two people interpret the same situation two different ways.

I heard, "I put new lifters on my 8 year old cam and it wiped a lobe".

Which made me think......."why would one try and put new lifters on a well used cam"?


Thought that too

Re: Just Lost my .590 cam [Re: Guitar Jones] #2317299
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Yes I agree so i ordered a Comp cam 20-740-9 Extreme Energy Roller
286/292 duration 248/254 @ .050
.576/.582 lift
110* LS
106* IC
Will be running HRC91717 Howards lifters
Heck of a lot more $$ then a flat tappet but better in the long run


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Remember the bronze dizzy gear. Cam button, and check cam endplay.

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Yep ordered one of them also


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I like the specs of that cam. I think you will pick up power across the rpm range

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