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Re: shock recommendation
[Re: moparcyco]
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05/29/17 07:07 PM
05/29/17 07:07 PM
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X2 on the Bilsteins. Love them on my stock 1969 GTX. Huge improvement.
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Re: shock recommendation
[Re: moparcyco]
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05/30/17 04:58 PM
05/30/17 04:58 PM
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I have the non-adj Hotchkis/Fox and they were a noticeable improvement over Bilstein on my stiff sprung Dart. Bilsteins are great but the Fox's are better.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: shock recommendation
[Re: moparcyco]
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05/30/17 05:36 PM
05/30/17 05:36 PM
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An advantage to bilsteins is that they typically can be re-valved for whatever your needs are pretty much anywhere. If your a DIY type, parts/valves/etc are available to be bought and TONS of aftermarket support.
Fox/hotchkis/viking/whoever might all be great products but valving even when adjustable with knobs, only have so much range and no vendor has been forth coming with with shock dynos with numbers... or even vague questions like what like spring rate/weight are they valved for. Maybe they work well, maybe you have too much spring.
When your out of range or adjustment, or when it needs to be rebuilt/change for your app what do you do? << serious question
Last edited by Trojmn; 05/30/17 05:56 PM.
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Re: shock recommendation
[Re: moparcyco]
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05/30/17 09:56 PM
05/30/17 09:56 PM
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The Viking shocks have a lot of range, I have used them with .89 to 1.14 torsion bars and they have more than enough rebound dampening. You can literally make the suspension stock soft all the way to so stiff you couldn't drive the car with the available factory settings. Now if you want to change the valve shim stack any motorcycle or snowmobile shop that does suspension work would have no problem with the fox shocks, and it shouldn't take to long to for them to redo any of the brands you listed.
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Re: shock recommendation
[Re: Trojmn]
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06/04/17 04:16 PM
06/04/17 04:16 PM
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An advantage to bilsteins is that they typically can be re-valved for whatever your needs are pretty much anywhere. If your a DIY type, parts/valves/etc are available to be bought and TONS of aftermarket support.
Fox/hotchkis/viking/whoever might all be great products but valving even when adjustable with knobs, only have so much range and no vendor has been forth coming with with shock dynos with numbers... or even vague questions like what like spring rate/weight are they valved for. Maybe they work well, maybe you have too much spring.
When your out of range or adjustment, or when it needs to be rebuilt/change for your app what do you do? << serious question While the data and numbers for the tuning codex on the Fox/Hotchkis shocks are not shared information (why would anyone publish inside information for the competition?), they are tuned to a much finer window than any other shocks on the market for our applications now. They are tuneable and rebuildable, but you would have to correlate your own data and find a shock tuner if you wanted to get it even more dialed in. I would say however if you are at that point with these shocks for your specific application you are probably well beyond your average consumer. The Hotchkis adjustable shocks are more than enough for 99% of consumers and hobby racers.
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