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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: flypaper]
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05/17/17 09:09 PM
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L.R Helbling
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a closed mind can be a very lonely place... does anyone have a advil??  Instead of an Advil How about a brand new post? One started by me with a question. What if the question is: is there anyone in the world with a 1971 Roadrunner, 383 with automatic transmission that came factory equipped with a Carter AVS carburator (Any model). If so can you explain, why you think it is original to the car. if someone responds yes and has a build sheet, which I don't. Would that do it? Something tells me you people still wouldn't believe it. i really want to believe you but if you go back to my last post on this thread i asked a very simple easy peasy question that i got immediately from reading your link that you provided that you say proves your claim. my question was ignored  it might give you a clue towards the correct answer  and why i said i want to believe you is my mind is wide open as i'm far from any expert but so far all you have provided is opinion.. yes, it's all opinion. except for the links and websites that I've referred to and oh yes, the 2 pics of the factory service manual. Those aren't my opinion.
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: L.R Helbling]
#2306321
05/17/17 09:19 PM
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a closed mind can be a very lonely place... does anyone have a advil?? Instead of an Advil How about a brand new post? One started by me with a question. What if the question is: is there anyone in the world with a 1971 Roadrunner, 383 with automatic transmission that came factory equipped with a Carter AVS carburator (Any model). If so can you explain, why you think it is original to the car. if someone responds yes and has a build sheet, which I don't. Would that do it? Something tells me you people still wouldn't believe it. i really want to believe you but if you go back to my last post on this thread i asked a very simple easy peasy question that i got immediately from reading your link that you provided that you say proves your claim. my question was ignored it might give you a clue towards the correct answer and why i said i want to believe you is my mind is wide open as i'm far from any expert but so far all you have provided is opinion.. yes, it's all opinion. except for the links and websites that I've referred to and oh yes, the 2 pics of the factory service manual. Those aren't my opinion. your link said a carter came on STANDARD 383 and 440 engines when did a road runner EVER get a STANDARD engine???  every last one i have ever seen had a hp engine... you link does not add up... that is not opinion that is reading and understanding english.. i need 2 advil's now 
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
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05/17/17 10:52 PM
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Those books are junk....
Do you need another thread to convince you....??
You have a non original AG set up...so who cares...am sure car is awesome... but NOT original...
What kills me is Air Grabber is not correct...and you worried about a wing nut...
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: JMCFAN]
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05/18/17 01:30 PM
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Those books are junk....
Do you need another thread to convince you....??
You have a non original AG set up...so who cares...am sure car is awesome... but NOT original...
What kills me is Air Grabber is not correct...and you worried about a wing nut...
Why do you say, I'm worried?.... I don't get it. I just would like to have one because the one that I do have looks terrible. Why would that translate to worry?
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: L.R Helbling]
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05/18/17 02:10 PM
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“Heated air intake” was never an option in ’71, standard on all engines with one exception, when ordered with the optional “Fresh Air, N96, Air Grabber”. You had one or the other. The driver’s side exhaust manifolds were the same, with mounting points cast for the heat stove. Stove, and all components relating to heated air, was omitted when ordered with N96. Dual snorkel air cleaner, with heated air provisions, on the ’71 383HP, again with only one exception-N96.
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: 72roadrunnergtx]
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05/18/17 02:40 PM
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“Heated air intake” was never an option in ’71, standard on all engines with one exception, when ordered with the optional “Fresh Air, N96, Air Grabber”. You had one or the other. The driver’s side exhaust manifolds were the same, with mounting points cast for the heat stove. Stove, and all components relating to heated air, was omitted when ordered with N96. Dual snorkel air cleaner, with heated air provisions, on the ’71 383HP, again with only one exception-N96. Thanks. Things are finely starting to make a bit of sense now because I know that my VIN doesn't mention the N96 so it's doubtful the AG system came with the car. But the exhaust manifolds shows signs that a stove was mounted to it. If you're saying that heated air was standard on all except the N96 cars, it's looking very likely that my car had heated air. One other follow up question. What were they doing in 1970 with all the 383 Roadrunners......we're they putting nothing but Holleys in them or does it go by either SPD or engine/tranny combo?
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: L.R Helbling]
#2306867
05/18/17 05:23 PM
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What were they doing in 1970 with all the 383 Roadrunners......we're they putting nothing but Holleys in them or does it go by either SPD or engine/tranny combo? since you asked ALL 1970 383 Road Runners have HOLLEY carburetors!  but since the much simplified '71 383HP 4bbl vs 383 4bbl is causing  & headaches - the '70 list will blow your mind  1970383 manual - E & B-body - with ECS (N95)orange HP engine 335hp ---------- Holley R4217-A ---------- part number 3418 5 37 on b'cast 37383 manual - E & B-body - w/o ECS orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 084 with A/C & 087---------- Holley R4367-A ---------- part number 3418 5 36 on b'cast 36383 manual - E & B-body - w/o ECS & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4736-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 64 on b'cast 64383 manual - E & B-body - with ECS (N95) & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4738-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 74 on b'cast 74383 automatic - E, C & B-body - w/o A/C & w/o ECS blue engine 330hp---------- Carter 4736S ---------- part number 3418 5 38 on b'cast 38383 automatic - E, C & B-body - with A/C (H51) & w/o ECS blue engine 330hp ---------- Carter 4732S ---------- part number 3418 5 40 on b'cast 40383 automatic - E, C & B-body - with ECS (N95)blue engine 330hp---------- Carter 4734S ---------- part number 3418 5 41 on b'cast 41383 automatic - E & B-body - w/o A/C & w/o ECS orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 088---------- Holley R4368-A ---------- part number 3418 5 42 on b'cast 42383 automatic - E & B-body - w/o A/C & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 088---------- Holley R4737-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 65 on b'cast 65383 automatic - E & B-body - with ECS (N95)orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4218-A ---------- part number 3418 5 43 on b'cast 43383 automatic - E & B-body - with A/C (H51) & w/o ECS orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 089---------- Holley R4369-A ---------- part number 3418 5 62 on b'cast 62383 automatic - E & B-body - with ECS (N95) & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4739-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 75 on b'cast 75
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: 71birdJ68]
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05/18/17 06:17 PM
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The Air Grabber/ N 96 will not be on the VIN tag or door decal, only two places will show it, the fender tag, and the broadcast sheet. Well, it's not on the fender tag.
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
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#2306899
05/18/17 06:18 PM
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What were they doing in 1970 with all the 383 Roadrunners......we're they putting nothing but Holleys in them or does it go by either SPD or engine/tranny combo? since you asked ALL 1970 383 Road Runners have HOLLEY carburetors! but since the much simplified '71 383HP 4bbl vs 383 4bbl is causing & headaches - the '70 list will blow your mind 1970383 manual - E & B-body - with ECS (N95)orange HP engine 335hp ---------- Holley R4217-A ---------- part number 3418 5 37 on b'cast 37383 manual - E & B-body - w/o ECS orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 084 with A/C & 087---------- Holley R4367-A ---------- part number 3418 5 36 on b'cast 36383 manual - E & B-body - w/o ECS & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4736-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 64 on b'cast 64383 manual - E & B-body - with ECS (N95) & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4738-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 74 on b'cast 74383 automatic - E, C & B-body - w/o A/C & w/o ECS blue engine 330hp---------- Carter 4736S ---------- part number 3418 5 38 on b'cast 38383 automatic - E, C & B-body - with A/C (H51) & w/o ECS blue engine 330hp ---------- Carter 4732S ---------- part number 3418 5 40 on b'cast 40383 automatic - E, C & B-body - with ECS (N95)blue engine 330hp---------- Carter 4734S ---------- part number 3418 5 41 on b'cast 41383 automatic - E & B-body - w/o A/C & w/o ECS orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 088---------- Holley R4368-A ---------- part number 3418 5 42 on b'cast 42383 automatic - E & B-body - w/o A/C & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 088---------- Holley R4737-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 65 on b'cast 65383 automatic - E & B-body - with ECS (N95)orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4218-A ---------- part number 3418 5 43 on b'cast 43383 automatic - E & B-body - with A/C (H51) & w/o ECS orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 089---------- Holley R4369-A ---------- part number 3418 5 62 on b'cast 62383 automatic - E & B-body - with ECS (N95) & with "fresh air" (N96). orange HP engine 335hp---------- Holley R4739-1A ---------- part number 3512 9 75 on b'cast 75 Looks good.
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: L.R Helbling]
#2306904
05/18/17 06:28 PM
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I was thinking some more about what 2 other posters suggested about the heated air intake option on '71 Roadrunners. How would I know if I had heated air in order to be deserving of an exalted Holley carburetor? Would the manifolds be different in any way?
If I didn't have the heated air option, would the air cleaner be 1 or 2 snorkel and not have a drop tube to the stove? and would the manifold omit the mounts for the hot air stove? If your car did not have N96 it would have a dual snorkel 71 only air cleaner with a stove pipe attached to the drivers side exhaust manifold.
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: L.R Helbling]
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05/18/17 06:34 PM
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By the way as someone already stated none of the repop wing nuts are correct. If you want an original correct wing nut for your incorrect carb you gotta get one from a real original car.
(says one of the original "beat the dead horse until it is gone" posters of the infamous "wing nut" thread here on Moparts)
I still have several original 6 pak/6bbl wing nuts including a date coded restored set of carbs for a 69 1/2 4 speed car.
Give it up. You are supposed to have a Holley. Just for ghits and siggles, what is the date code and part number on your "original" carter.
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Re: Source for quality repro Air Grabber cleaner lid wing nut.
[Re: MOPARMIKE69]
#2306943
05/18/17 07:27 PM
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By the way as someone already stated none of the repop wing nuts are correct. If you want an original correct wing nut for your incorrect carb you gotta get one from a real original car.
(says one of the original "beat the dead horse until it is gone" posters of the infamous "wing nut" thread here on Moparts)
I still have several original 6 pak/6bbl wing nuts including a date coded restored set of carbs for a 69 1/2 4 speed car.
Give it up. You are supposed to have a Holley. Just for ghits and siggles, what is the date code and part number on your "original" carter.
i'm happy that you still have your original 6 pak/6bbl wing nuts with your vintage carbs. You must be very proud. I'd be perfectly willing to give you the date codes of the 2 Carter AVSs that I had but no longer do because they were sold off at least 15 years ago and yes, i do recognize that, had I kept them, there would not have been such an animated discussion here on Moparts dot com because the answer would be on those dates.
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