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Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? #2297716 05/02/17 01:27 PM 05/02/17 01:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 765 Vancouver, WA Cuda Cody OP super stock
Cuda Cody OP super stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 765 Vancouver, WA	Pretty neat service training for the Factory Technicians. Book 72-1 is only 16 pages, but covers a bunch of details on how to tune it. Here's the PDF that you can print and keep in your shop. https://www.e-bodies.org/resources/master-technician-service-conference-reference-books/ 1970 Challenger T/A 4-Speed 1970 Challenger T/A 4-Speed 1970 Challenger T/A Auto 1970 Challenger R/T Auto 1970 Challenger Auto 1970 Challenger RT 440+6 4-Speed 1970 Challenger RT 440+6 4-Speed 1970 Hemi Challenger 4-Speed 1970 Hemi Cuda 4-Speed 1971 Cuda Auto 1971 Cuda 4-Speed LOOKING to BUY 1970 & 1971 E Body J, V and R Code project cars

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2297751 05/02/17 02:42 PM 05/02/17 02:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,060 Western New York sixpackbee master
sixpackbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,060 Western New York	The only carb I race with! 1959 Bugeye Sprite 1967 Charger Black L code 1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner 1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM 1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96 1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car 1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85 1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96 1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13 1971 MG Midget 1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57 1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2297816 05/02/17 04:53 PM 05/02/17 04:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Great stuff!!! Thanks for the post. Fastest 300

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2298019 05/03/17 12:09 AM 05/03/17 12:09 AM
Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 695 Southern Alberta Uberpube mopar
Uberpube mopar Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 695 Southern Alberta	On the moderate build 440 in my Power Ram I had, The TQ that I had modded always made more power than I ever got out of the engine with a Edel 750... Too bad the TQ cracked and started to leak, made good power and had crisp throttle response.

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2298031 05/03/17 12:40 AM 05/03/17 12:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn.	I love them, I have 2 modified 850's on a tunnelram on my 605 Hemi. Dave

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2298045 05/03/17 01:00 AM 05/03/17 01:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,754 Windsor, ON, Canada D Diplomat360 top fuel
Diplomat360 top fuel D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,754 Windsor, ON, Canada	I run the 9800 series here with the electric choke on the side of the carb...I love it...and so tunable...although yeah, requires some patience, trying a few things and spare parts sure help a LOT!

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: quickd100] #2298062 05/03/17 01:18 AM 05/03/17 01:18 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR	Originally Posted By quickd100 I love them, I have 2 modified 850's on a tunnelram on my 605 Hemi. Dave You can't just post that without a picture. You know better lol

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Jeremiah] #2298639 05/04/17 01:04 AM 05/04/17 01:04 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Originally Posted By Jeremiah Originally Posted By quickd100 I love them, I have 2 modified 850's on a tunnelram on my 605 Hemi. Dave You can't just post that without a picture. You know better lol Fastest 300

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2298730 05/04/17 07:44 AM 05/04/17 07:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn.	I have some pictures on my smart phone, the phone is smarter than I though. If you pm me with a phone # I'll text a couple pictures that you can post here. Dave

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2300786 05/07/17 05:54 PM 05/07/17 05:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington M madscientist master
madscientist master M Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 4,457 Washington	I'd like to have an original hard copy of this. Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: madscientist] #2355672 08/17/17 09:06 PM 08/17/17 09:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR	Sorry for the delay on this. I never saw Dave's text come through and while looking for some other info I thumb across this and follows

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2355919 08/18/17 09:47 AM 08/18/17 09:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn.	Sorry for the crappy pictures. The carbs work fantastic on a tunnel ram.

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356107 08/18/17 04:03 PM 08/18/17 04:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR	No problem on the pics they show nothing but pure awesomeness. I feel like this is one of those automotive wonders of the world that few can accomplish, like power shifting an Inland shifter. Color me impressed! These are mechanical secondary correct? Similar layout to an AVS? It's been 10 or 15 years since I was in one.

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356164 08/18/17 06:17 PM 08/18/17 06:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn.	The butterfly's are mechanical, they use a secondary air door above the throttle plates. It's the next evolutionary step after the AVS.Dave

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356169 08/18/17 06:25 PM 08/18/17 06:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,206 New York polyspheric master
polyspheric master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,206 New York	IMHO the single reason why people give up on it for street use: the tuning is very similar to anything else with a primary metering rod and vacuum secondary (AFB, AVS, QJ etc.) except that the secondary air valve is also linked to the choke mechanism. Just follow the manual and you'll be fine. Boffin Emeritus

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356196 08/18/17 07:20 PM 08/18/17 07:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth R Rob C super stock
Rob C super stock R Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 792 Earth	I haven't done any (Drag Strip) racing with the TQ. Just weekends in the back alley ways. You can use "bailing wire" as described in the MP books to wire the secondary side to allways work. Choke or not. This takes knowing the engine/car really well to get it to go and use the carb to it's max. I had mine coupled to a MP modified LD-340 on top of a 360. It makes wonderfully scary sounds!

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356218 08/18/17 08:38 PM 08/18/17 08:38 PM
Joined: May 2015 Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time Iowan super stock
Iowan super stock Joined: May 2015 Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time	I like the scary sounds!!!!!! Have a great day Iowan "obsolete is neat"

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356220 08/18/17 08:42 PM 08/18/17 08:42 PM
Joined: May 2015 Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time Iowan super stock
Iowan super stock Joined: May 2015 Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time	I have two exwives!!!! Scary sounds time two. Lol Have a great day Iowan "obsolete is neat"

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: Cuda Cody] #2356225 08/18/17 08:53 PM 08/18/17 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,389 nielsville, minn.	The Thermoquad can be a bit finicky on the tune-up. On the first pull on the Dyno the motor was a bit down on power. I looked at the data and it was a bit lean. I closed up the secondary air doors .050 and made another pull. It picked up 60hp so I closed them another .050 and lost 60 hp.

Re: Anyone running a Thermo-Quad? [Re: quickd100] #2356777 08/19/17 08:38 PM 08/19/17 08:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR	Whoa! 60hp is a bunch. Did the afr fall off a bunch with the last .050?

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