Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Whats the preference here? Diaper or Catch pan for my 64? Pictures would be great! Thanks!! Ted Ted.. there is no best answer here.. its what will work easiest for you.. they both will do the same job if done right.. on my junk the pan is easier.. and smooths out the air flow under the car... for others the diapers are easier but make sure you get one that wont burn in high temp areas and no plastic strap connections.. I remember one that Hemi Fred had that has plastic parts that didnt last
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Whats the preference here? Diaper or Catch pan for my 64? Pictures would be great! Thanks!! Ted Hey Ted get DVW (Doug) to post some pictures of his diaper. VERY NICE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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The reason the pan would have worked best for my W-9 engine was that it was a dry sump engine so the pump and lines would clear much easier with a pan and it wouldnt have a expiration date like some of the diapers and it would help smooth out ail flow under the car.. but now that engine is sold and I can go with what ever I want and that MIGHT be a pan again
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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I made a drawing of my pan and sent it to Rustler. Fit near perfect. Going on its 5th year. Doug Where's the like button? Very nice!
Jim
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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For the guys running alcohol a diaper is a win win.
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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I made a drawing of my pan and sent it to Rustler. Fit near perfect. Going on its 5th year. Doug Doug.. how many degrees of temp does that hold in it It has a heck of a time getting oil temp above 150 before a run. never seen it over 180' I actually have thought about a pan heater. Doug
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Looks good, might do one on my 64, how deep is your oil pan? Is there any absorbent material in the box? Aluminum or steel? How high up or deep is it, hard to tell from pic? For the rest of you guys, which one would contain the oil better, flying parts not the problem. And Mr P, why would you need a diaper for a dry sump? Granted you'll lose some but not the gully washer of a 8-10 quart pan.
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Looks good, might do one on my 64, how deep is your oil pan? Is there any absorbent material in the box? Aluminum or steel? How high up or deep is it, hard to tell from pic? For the rest of you guys, which one would contain the oil better, flying parts not the problem. And Mr P, why would you need a diaper for a dry sump? Granted you'll lose some but not the gully washer of a 8-10 quart pan. I didnt want a diaper I wanted to build pan and to my understanding I was told that even the pump was to be with in the diaper if you went that way
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Looks good, might do one on my 64, how deep is your oil pan? Is there any absorbent material in the box? Aluminum or steel? How high up or deep is it, hard to tell from pic? For the rest of you guys, which one would contain the oil better, flying parts not the problem. And Mr P, why would you need a diaper for a dry sump? Granted you'll lose some but not the gully washer of a 8-10 quart pan. My pan is a 10qt charlies pan. I think its around 10 inch's deep. My Kframe is cut and boxed square. The object was to get the catch pan to fit tightly around the K frame opening. Thus the K frame would also act as part of the pan, and runoff from the k frame would go into the pan. It is powder coated aluminum. the pan sits less than 1/2 inch lower then the pan so there is room for absorbant material. I put a few layers of absorbant material in it and used speed tape to tape it down.
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Matt whats the rear of the pan bolted to I see the front is bolted to the K member any rear pics thanks Tom For the rear we used an aluminum plate bolted to the transmission, in place of the torque converter inspection plate/cover that hangs down the depth of the pan. The plate has mounting provisions that the rear of the belly pan bolted up to.
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Do you have any thoughts on closing the sides of the K member to direct oil to the sump? I have thought about doing that. The NHRA rule book for belly pans states something along the lines of the pan covering from frame rail to frame rail. Easy in a chassis car or dragster, not possible in a stock front suspension. I think closing off the K frame on the sides could bring it more in-line the rule, and the argument could be made that by utilizing the k frame and oil catch pan in this manner meets the intent of the frame rail to frame coverage. Might end up making block off plates at some point, especially if I raced regularly. I'm more interested in have a street car lately. I know a few people with similar setups that race regularly and never had an issue with tech. Its all about doing the best you can, no setup diaper or pan is perfect when dealing with stock suspension mopar with a steering link going through the pan.
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Been thinking about this all afteroon I really like that belly pan that fits in the notched "k".But the diaper also cover the sides of the block.If something blows hard enough to go through the oil pan it will go through that pan also,,,,,,,,
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Been thinking about this all afteroon I really like that belly pan that fits in the notched "k".But the diaper also cover the sides of the block.If something blows hard enough to go through the oil pan it will go through that pan also,,,,,,,, Maybe some Kevlar sheets glued to that pan
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Re: Diaper or Catch Pan For Early B-Body
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Not to hi-jack but DRW, is that an Aerospace mandrel for your alt and vacuum pump? I noticed you have a spacer holding it away from the crank trigger wheel. I am wondering how to do mine without having everything all bolted together as one unit. Jim.
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