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Re: Spray undercoating [Re: Silver70] #2270097
03/15/17 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Silver70
Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
[quote=Silver70]Bed liner is fine if your going to keep the car... go to sell it and it looks like its covering up stuff a lot more than undercoating. I've done it before... if the prep isn't really good, be prepared for it to fall off in chunks/crack etc. Undercoat sticks a lot better and flexes better.
Originally Posted By Silver70
I've done it a lot! There is so much wrong with this post right here it ain't funny. I scraped the factory undercoating off of my car and torched some of it off. Believe me if anything is going to hide anything it's factory undercoating and Bedliner sticks as good and will not crack and it does flex. Bedliner will show more than undercoating and you just can't gob it on and cover up $hit like your letting on.


You must be using spray can bedliner if you think it's thinner than undercoat per coat. Good bedliner is like 3 times as thick if not more per coat. Like I said, you want to hide stuff, use bedliner. I've used both at least 20 times and good resto rick undercoating looks so much better. I used to think the same as you, but not after the last car, never again... it's good for a truck bed and that's it. Bedliner looks like plastic, just looks out of place on a muscle car.
Your wrong there. The factory undercoating was put on thick, real thick. Not 1 car will look the same because they didn't care back then. As long as the car got covered they didn't care what it looked like. Like I've said I've scraped off a bunch of factory J55 cars and the results are not consistent. The stuff today is still not like the Undercoating they had back then. Try to duplicate this first pic of factory undercoating. I don't know what kind of junk bedliner you were using but it's obviously not the same what I use and doesn't look like plastic lmao. I've got some old pics somewhere if I can get them to download I'll post them. I done the 2nd pic about 4 years ago and in person everybody loved it and they even loved the Hippo liner I sprayed last year even better but I can't get those pics to download. Like I said If your driving the car use Bedliner unless you want to use undercoating and you like the dirt look that sticks to it but your restoring one correct and is a trailer queen I'd use the undercoating.

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Re: Spray undercoating [Re: 70RT Charger] #2270325
03/16/17 12:33 AM
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Even if you drive a car, good epoxy and factory style primer looking paint hold will up perfectly fine unless you think your driving the general lee and driving through gravel and off roading. New cars aren't even undercoated... my 230k mile 2001 truck still has primer on the underide and it's driven year round, mud/gravel, snow/salt etc.

There's no need for either other than the wheel wells and inner quarters unless you want to cover up flaws.

And I repeat, use bedliner on a car and see how people react when you go to sell it... if it's a valuable car, good luck! There's no need for it and no place for it on a muscle car.

Re: Spray undercoating [Re: gtx6970] #2270868
03/16/17 11:24 PM
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I like Ricks stuff and have used the 3m stuff as well, both with no issues. I do use a 3m gun and keep it meticulously clean as undercoating sets up fast. As noted, air pressure and volume play a big role. twocents


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Re: Spray undercoating [Re: Silver70] #2271346
03/17/17 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Silver70
New cars aren't even undercoated... my 230k mile 2001 truck still has primer on the underide and it's driven year round, mud/gravel, snow/salt etc.

There's no need for either other than the wheel wells and inner quarters unless you want to cover up flaws.
This right here is just frigging hilarious. I've worked from Washington, PA to Philly and all over Ohio the past 20 years. I know what gravel Roads which is Limestone and Salt and Calcium Choride does to your car. I've watched 2 Dodge trucks a Ford and Chevy just Rot away. I've used Undercoating on all my hunting rigs in the past and I love the dirty gray look it leaves when you try and clean it up lol. If I had a trailer queen or live in Miami Beach or Southern Cal I wouldn't use either but I drive my cars. So after reading your hilarious comment I'm done with this post.

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Re: Spray undercoating [Re: 70RT Charger] #2271519
03/18/17 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted By 70RT Charger
Originally Posted By Silver70
New cars aren't even undercoated... my 230k mile 2001 truck still has primer on the underide and it's driven year round, mud/gravel, snow/salt etc.

There's no need for either other than the wheel wells and inner quarters unless you want to cover up flaws.
This right here is just frigging hilarious. I've worked from Washington, PA to Philly and all over Ohio the past 20 years. I know what gravel Roads which is Limestone and Salt and Calcium Choride does to your car. I've watched 2 Dodge trucks a Ford and Chevy just Rot away. I've used Undercoating on all my hunting rigs in the past and I love the dirty gray look it leaves when you try and clean it up lol. If I had a trailer queen or live in Miami Beach or Southern Cal I wouldn't use either but I drive my cars. So after reading your hilarious comment I'm done with this post.


You seem to think you know more than you actually do... all the rams you see rust out in the wheel wells for example is because they trapped dirt/junk between the wheel house and bed side. Nothing undercoat or bedliner will change... goes the same for gm and fords. No under coat or bedliner is going to be able to get into this area. In fact it would just help trap it more than just pressure washing it now and then. Your not bedlining inside the frame, body mount areas etc. If you want to avoid rust out, your better off spraying oil on them.

230k and northeast 4x4 driven winter/gravel etc and yet my trucks not rusted out underneath... explain that keyboard pro! Go lay some more pipe, you obviously have no idea what your talking about.



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