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426 engine VIN #2252291 02/12/17 03:07 PM 02/12/17 03:07 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 486 Pa M mopglen OP mopar
mopglen OP mopar M Joined: May 2006 Posts: 486 Pa	I need the location of the partial VIN on a 68 hemi block please? Thanks Glen

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252293 02/12/17 03:13 PM 02/12/17 03:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,650 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,650 Hamtramck, PA	A '68 casting block could be used in a later year. So..... If it was in a 1968 model year car, check the top of the transmission mating flange at the top rear of the engine. If it is from a '69 up car, check the pad on the passenger side of the block.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252299 02/12/17 03:27 PM 02/12/17 03:27 PM
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mopglen OP mopar M Joined: May 2006 Posts: 486 Pa	Thanks Barry, I knew that was correct for RB motors but I have seen numbers on the bottom of hemi blocks behind the oil pan? So do hemi blocks stamped in 1968 have the same locations for VINs as 440 blocks?

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252324 02/12/17 04:00 PM 02/12/17 04:00 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA RoadRunnerJD master
RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	The 68 D code blocks (from a 1968) car partial VIN is stamped on the top rearmost flange of the motor where it mates up with the trans/bell housing just behind the oil sending unit location. Sometimes it is hard to read because it's a rounded cast surface and the stamping was not easy to make in that area. The numbers on the bottom of the block are date code and assembly type info. A 426 block from a 1969 car would have the partial VIN stamped on the same area as a 1969 440 block. It's possible that s 69 motor could have a 68 casting date but a 426 motor out of a 1968 car will have the stamping on the top rear flange of the block. Last edited by RoadRunnerJD; 02/12/17 08:32 PM.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #2252386 02/12/17 05:20 PM 02/12/17 05:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,514 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,514 Las Vegas, NV	yes, the block should be partial VIN stamped "same as 440HP". the entire 1968 model year's b-body 383 4bbl, 383HP, 440HP, HEMI & their associated transmissions SHOULD be partial VIN stamped with last 8-digits (YEAR * PLANT * SERIAL NUMBER). /6, 318, 383 2bbl & their associated transmissions will NOT be VIN stamped. the HEMI will also have engine assembly data "MN426" stamped on the bottom of the starter flange. let us know what you find

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252390 02/12/17 05:27 PM 02/12/17 05:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,650 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,650 Hamtramck, PA	Glen, You can post a want ad here at https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...d.html#Post2844 There is also a Hemi Owner page on Facebook if you use it at all? If not I could post there for you.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252412 02/12/17 05:58 PM 02/12/17 05:58 PM
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mopglen OP mopar M Joined: May 2006 Posts: 486 Pa	Thanks guys for the info. I am trying to get the motor for a car I purchased and want to be prepared if I ever get to look at it.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252415 02/12/17 06:01 PM 02/12/17 06:01 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 486 Pa M mopglen OP mopar
mopglen OP mopar M Joined: May 2006 Posts: 486 Pa	Those examples, 6bblgt ,were also very nice that you provided.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252514 02/12/17 08:16 PM 02/12/17 08:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,106 Chicago Blackhawks H hemicar1971 master
hemicar1971 master H Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,106 Chicago Blackhawks	The casting date on the block is 00 00 68, if so what are the numbers in the spot in my example for the 00s. I have seen 1968 cast blocks that were put into original 1971 Hemi Cars. The assembly date of the motor on the bottom of the oil pan rail tells you a date when it could been put into a Hemi Body. If this date example 2 2 68 like Dan has in his post then it can only go into vehicle from the factory that was buil after this date and in a 68-9-70-71 built after Feb. 2, 1968. Some times on the assembly date on the oil pan rail there is a letter referring to the year of car the block was put in.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2252533 02/12/17 08:42 PM 02/12/17 08:42 PM
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RoadRunnerJD master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,123 Warrenton, VA	The partial VIN on the block in the example above starts with 8A designating a block out of a 1968 car. I have also seen on Hemi blocks, the letter designating the model year, in this case "D", stamped on the front engine pad next to the left side head but usually the pad just has a WT stamp.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2253729 02/14/17 10:12 PM 02/14/17 10:12 PM
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screemindemon member S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 14 Lewiston, ID.	As long as we're talking about engine VINs here, I have a question. Everyone talks about partial VINs, but I have several engines and transmissions that have the full VIN stamped on them. They are all 69 model year. I currently have 2 426 Hemis, a 440 HP, a 383 HP, a Hemi 4 speed, a 23 spline a body 4 speed and at least one 727 auto that have full VINs. All have Serial #s below 275,XXX. I also have one 23 spline a body 4 speed with only a partial VIN, but it's Serial # is over 300,XXX. While most are from the St Louis plant (G code), 2 of them are from Hamtramck, and I have seen other full VIN blocks and transmissions on the Mopar Lost and Found Facebook page, at least two from Lynch Road. Can anybody shed some light on this?

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: screemindemon] #2253734 02/14/17 10:19 PM 02/14/17 10:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Originally Posted By screemindemon As long as we're talking about engine VINs here, I have a question. Everyone talks about partial VINs, but I have several engines and transmissions that have the full VIN stamped on them. They are all 69 model year. I currently have 2 426 Hemis, a 440 HP, a 383 HP, a Hemi 4 speed, a 23 spline a body 4 speed and at least one 727 auto that have full VINs. All have Serial #s below 275,XXX. I also have one 23 spline a body 4 speed with only a partial VIN, but it's Serial # is over 300,XXX. While most are from the St Louis plant (G code), 2 of them are from Hamtramck, and I have seen other full VIN blocks and transmissions on the Mopar Lost and Found Facebook page, at least two from Lynch Road. Can anybody shed some light on this? For part of the 69 model year they stamped full VINs. That was neat because you knew exactly what car it went into. For some reason they went back to partials.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: screemindemon] #2253736 02/14/17 10:22 PM 02/14/17 10:22 PM
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GTS440 enthusiast G Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 219 Texas	To the best of my knowledge & experience only 69 model cars received the full vin stamped on the engine & transmission. GTS

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: Morty426] #2253755 02/14/17 10:54 PM 02/14/17 10:54 PM
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screemindemon member S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 14 Lewiston, ID.	That's what it looked like to me, but I never hear anybody mention it. Someone questioned the legitimacy of my 69 Hemi Road Runner because it had the full VIN on both the engine and trans. Neither of my Hemis have anything stamped on the upper pad except the WT stamp. Is that common? They have the assembly date info on the starter ear, date codes look right.

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2253783 02/14/17 11:36 PM 02/14/17 11:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: Neither of my Hemis have anything stamped on the upper pad except the WT stamp. Is that common? They have the assembly date info on the starter ear, date codes look right. It depends on the year

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2253818 02/15/17 12:19 AM 02/15/17 12:19 AM
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screemindemon member S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 14 Lewiston, ID.	Both 69s, one from a Charger 500, one from a 69 RR (May SPD). Both have full VINs

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: mopglen] #2253846 02/15/17 12:56 AM 02/15/17 12:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Then yes, just a WT (Water Tested Block) on the upper pad is considered "normal"

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2253850 02/15/17 01:01 AM 02/15/17 01:01 AM
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screemindemon member S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 14 Lewiston, ID.	Thanks for the info, guys. Confirms what I suspected!

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: screemindemon] #2253889 02/15/17 02:15 AM 02/15/17 02:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,514 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,514 Las Vegas, NV	the May '69 RR shouldn't have its full VIN stamped on engine/trans the FULL VIN stampings are from the beginning of the model year until some time in January 1969 (all Charger 500s = FULL VIN & all Charger Daytonas = partial VIN) got pics?

Re: 426 engine VIN [Re: 6bblgt] #2254006 02/15/17 01:48 PM 02/15/17 01:48 PM
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screemindemon member S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 14 Lewiston, ID.	I don't have a picture of the May SPD car, have to put it up on the lift. Font looks correct. But I have other full VIN engines/transmissions in the same Serial # range. I understand that they are not necessarily an indication of build date, but it appears they used full VINs up until the 275,XXX range? I'll check my other engines that I can get to and post some pics.

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