Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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I will start with the easy answer. Yes, the left hand lugs had a "L" stamped on the side of them. No notches in the lugs I know of.
I can say without a doubt the finish on H wheels was not a "gloss" finish. Semi gloss at best. These wheels came from the M5 factory with a black paint on them. The finish would have then been effected by the cure on any given day. I have seen many different levels of finish on original M5/9 wheels, but none "gloss"
The idea was to keep the cost down as Chrysler knew people were going to run aftermarket wheels. Hence the reason these are so hard to come by, people tossed the originals.
I have a survivor A12 in my shop with it's original H wheels and lugs. I will post some pictures later today. There really is no debate, at least in my eyes.
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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01/30/17 01:31 AM
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& the "H" wheels were no different than any of the other typical steel wheels (the "cheapness" was across the board) - they were all painted gloss black by the wheel manufacturer 45+ year old "H" wheel between the beads Dan - What plant is this wheel from? It does look more "glossy" than I am used to seeing. The H wheels on A12 cars originated at the M5 plant, so only those from that plant should be used for accurate reference. D
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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Here is an outside picture of an original M5/9 H Wheel dated 4 1. It among others is what I base my previous answer on.
I have not seen the inside of these wheels to answer the question if the finish is different.
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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Here is an outside picture of an original M5/9 H Wheel dated 4 1. It among others is what I base my previous answer on.
I have not seen the inside of these wheels to answer the question if the finish is different.
D Call me crazy, but that might be "correct" if it spent all its life outside in the weather. That rim is way to dull.........
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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01/30/17 06:37 AM
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I will start with the easy answer. Yes, the left hand lugs had a "L" stamped on the side of them. No notches in the lugs I know of.
I can say without a doubt the finish on H wheels was not a "gloss" finish. Semi gloss at best. These wheels came from the M5 factory with a black paint on them. The finish would have then been effected by the cure on any given day. I have seen many different levels of finish on original M5/9 wheels, but none "gloss"
The idea was to keep the cost down as Chrysler knew people were going to run aftermarket wheels. Hence the reason these are so hard to come by, people tossed the originals.
I have a survivor A12 in my shop with it's original H wheels and lugs. I will post some pictures later today. There really is no debate, at least in my eyes.
D On the note of keeping costs down, in order to get a matte or lower gloss level doesn't another agent have to be added to paint to make it less glossy, and wouldn't that add cost? I personally think as noted by Dan that the wheels were (high) gloss black, not semi-gloss or matte. All of the dog dish/hub cap car wheels were high gloss body color finish and if the car was a X9 black car they wouldn't have to paint the wheels to match the car cutting costs or did they paint the black wheels black again Have to say the wheels came from the vendor in high gloss black and in little or no time in use would lose the high gloss finish and make it appear they were not gloss......until you take the tire off the first time. Just like body paint is originally high gloss finish and then you lift the carpet or remove a panel and either find it still glossy or dull in area even though you know originally it was glossy 45+ years ago. Just my opinion. MikeR
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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This would have been so much easier if they would have just gone with the original styling department's idea of body colored wheels with no hub caps or wheel covers.........I'm sure they would have been high gloss body color MikeR (and no décor package/post b-pillar bright finish and a full horn ring, and removed the antenna for the photo shoot or to make removing the fiberglass lift off hood easier...oh and doesn't look like chrome lug nuts just yet....that's a factory media photo by the way)
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Re: H wheel gloss level / A12 wheel lugs.
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I know you really can't tell the gloss level from the photos but to me a gloss showroom finish would not be too much of a request of the supplier by the manufacture. The above pic of the guy taking off his lift off hood reminded me of what a pain those hoods were for a daily driven car ( if the pig would start).... Thank goodness mine had a vinyl roof so I had somewhere to set the hood....
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