Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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The street IS a problem. It is beat all to hell and wasn't made for this. It's a through road in an industrial park, NOT a track. They have destroyed the road and they really have no other options at this time. Most of Farmtruck and Azn's "fishing" is also done on this spot, just filmed differently. The races are real though. Even though some of that stuff SHOULD beat the Beettle, the damn thing IS fast and the other guys are not prepared
There are two proposals pending. One is actually BUILD a road on private property to race on. It wouldn't be track smooth, just built like a regular road only much thicker concrete to take the abuse. The second is to actually race on the end of Thunder Valley or widen and repour the return road. Goad actually submitted a proposal to build the road on 60 acres he owns. Would cost about 300 grand. The work at Thunder Valley would be cheaper since it's already a facility, with power, lights, access, etc.
Chief is the "self proclaimed" leader. Discovery has neither put him nor anyone else in charge. Nobody seems to want to challenge him though, because they are under the impression he calls the shots, which is not really true. Just like the deal with Doc, Chief doesn't really care for Doc and basically bullied him into giving up that spot because Doc didn't want to be first down a road that had just been oiled down. Being 1 should grant you the right to do what you want to some extent
The film crews spend LOTS of time at various guys shops, but for some reason that footage rarely gets aired. I spent a week out there with Goad when we had the trans issues. The film crew filmed EVERYTHING, but I have seen about 15 minutes of it on air. We ran his car on chassis dyno, ran Derricks on chassis dyno, were at track with Farmtruck. They also filmed rebuild from blow up, struggles to get car fixed and back running, among other things. Have only seen the Farmtruck stuff on the show and that was only about 10 minutes of the hours we spent on truck that night. We adjusted the chassis, fixed some issues, changed all the nitrous stuff, worked on MSD and nitrous controller. You basically do and say everything twice, because they want to make sure they get it on tape, yet it never makes the cut.
And NO, the pink car did NOT come around Chief........LOL!!! I have seen the actual footage from different angles. Close yes, but Chief did nip him Somewhere I saw a picture that was posted by the guy with the pink car and some Air Force group or something actually use geospatial something or other and it showed Chief just nipped the pink car. Can't find it now, but if you good with Google you may find it. Hell, it may have been posted here on MoParts!!
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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I'm sorry, the "safe factor" of no police and legally blocked streets......makes me just think "posers" you can tell some of these guys are doing it because there is no risk of getting busted, then there are the die hards that yea they don't care lol they will race any where. Doing this on a purpose built road, that's track racing, sorry
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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If a person wants to see some racing on TV this is he best we have had yet. Would you rather watch pinks? NHRA with Tony P?
Or, start your own racing TV show and we will be glad to tell you how you are doing. Bring back Pinks all out, and Passtime.
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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They need to keep the Shark Pool going bringing in the new blood. There's enough cars to have a Top 20 List and keep it interesting from week to week. Definitely need to have more out of town people coming in.
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
[Re: n20mstr]
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11/30/16 12:41 AM
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I'm sorry, the "safe factor" of no police and legally blocked streets......makes me just think "posers" you can tell some of these guys are doing it because there is no risk of getting busted, then there are the die hards that yea they don't care lol they will race any where. Doing this on a purpose built road, that's track racing, sorry The roads they race on now are "purpose built"......for driving. You build one just like it except thicker so it doesn't get torn up. The same way the cities come in and dig up roads that big trucks wreck and put down a foot of concrete road. Most all of these "posers" were doing actual street racing way before this show came along. The "list" is a real thing in OKC and has been around for 20 years. Like most, I did my share of real street racing. Running from the law, posting sentry's to watch for the law and finding roads to get in and out quick, or had places to hide. We used to find places on the interstate that had exits one mile apart with a center barrier. Roll down with a couple blocker cars, stop the traffic, make a hit and haul it to next exit. Back then you likely got a reckless driving ticket, a spectating ticket and MAYBE a night in jail. Now they impound your rig, you don't get it back and you are lucky to ever get your license back or ever get insurance. No thanks. Guys that say they don't care, or thats the risk you take are lying or have nothing to lose. I have plenty to lose and so does any upstanding citizen. Even money won't get you out that jenga these days with a DA that wants to make an example and there are plenty Some think it's track racing and MANY show up with fast track cars and get their asses cracked. A fast track car is easy. Getting it down a concrete or asphalt road, controlled environment or not is HARD. Want to try your luck? go to a no prep and I mean a REAL no prep where they come in and scrape the track. Then tell us all how easy it is
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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If a person wants to see some racing on TV this is he best we have had yet. Would you rather watch pinks? NHRA with Tony P?
Or, start your own racing TV show and we will be glad to tell you how you are doing. Bring back Pinks all out, and Passtime. times 2.
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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If Pinks or Passtime had enough viewers to stay on.........it would BE on.
I know the producer well. He has pitched it to everyone for a reboot.......no takers. He also produced Drag Race High, Burnout, Gear Heads and other car shows. Always looking for an "in" to get a car show on the TV. He hates Street Outlaws, but wishes he had thought of it.......LOL!!! His name is Ray Iddings. Got a good idea rolling around in your head? he will listen to it. Cant just be what YOU want to see though, because likely not enough of the masses will. Race shows are boring for anyone but car guys and there aren't enough of us to carry a show
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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Yay I'm sorry, the "safe factor" of no police and legally blocked streets......makes me just think "posers" you can tell some of these guys are doing it because there is no risk of getting busted, then there are the die hards that yea they don't care lol they will race any where. Doing this on a purpose built road, that's track racing, sorry The roads they race on now are "purpose built"......for driving. You build one just like it except thicker so it doesn't get torn up. The same way the cities come in and dig up roads that big trucks wreck and put down a foot of concrete road. Most all of these "posers" were doing actual street racing way before this show came along. The "list" is a real thing in OKC and has been around for 20 years. Like most, I did my share of real street racing. Running from the law, posting sentry's to watch for the law and finding roads to get in and out quick, or had places to hide. We used to find places on the interstate that had exits one mile apart with a center barrier. Roll down with a couple blocker cars, stop the traffic, make a hit and haul it to next exit. Back then you likely got a reckless driving ticket, a spectating ticket and MAYBE a night in jail. Now they impound your rig, you don't get it back and you are lucky to ever get your license back or ever get insurance. No thanks. Guys that say they don't care, or thats the risk you take are lying or have nothing to lose. I have plenty to lose and so does any upstanding citizen. Even money won't get you out that jenga these days with a DA that wants to make an example and there are plenty Some think it's track racing and MANY show up with fast track cars and get their asses cracked. A fast track car is easy. Getting it down a concrete or asphalt road, controlled environment or not is HARD. Want to try your luck? go to a no prep and I mean a REAL no prep where they come in and scrape the track. Then tell us all how easy it is I did it back in the 80's and early 90's. I won a ton of races , and yea I got down regular highways. You know there are guys on the show that would not risk it. 90% of them are what I would call real street racers, and I know they have been doing it for years now, I watched the 1320/big rob vids before the show ever was a thought, but there are some that are not, lol What's funny is Cecil,county has a "list race" once a month, we go totes because it's 15.00 to test and they prep it like its a radial,tire race LOL. So much for no prep.
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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Tony they run that twice a month at Cecil.
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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Want to try your luck? go to a no prep and I mean a REAL no prep where they come in and scrape the track. Then tell us all how easy it is
Tried it. Car hooked just as good as it normally does in the first 60ft. Then it started pushing towards the center line. I gave it the same steering input that I do on a prepped track, and it didn't respond...dang, that's an eerie feeling. I enjoy the show, not bored of it in the least.
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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Now try that with something that makes 2000+ horsepower..........LOL!!!!
I went testing once with Reaper, Doc, Monza and Dominator at Ardmore. Hadn't been a car down the track in 3 months. We blew the dirt off, ran a sweeper down it and made passes. It's definitely a different setup.
We ran Goads car a few weeks ago at Huntsville on a track rental. I told them not to touch the track. 6 days since last race. About shook the car apart. Track too good
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Re: Is Street Outlaws getting boring?
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I've never watched it, it promotes street racing.
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