Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/27/16 09:06 PM
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i just did this on my sunfire. take the sensors off and clean off the face with a wire brush or light sandpaper. they are the same sensors that control the traction control. to find a bad one you unplug the sensor at the wheel, hook up your meter set on low AC and spin the tire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb6nXV-iamI
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/27/16 10:03 PM
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sounds like you're gonna have to meter each sensor.
and that's about as much help as i can give. anything more is over my head equipment wise..... Yes your right, gonna do that here in just a little while if the light is still on when I reconnect the battery. But need to do it either way. Thanks
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/27/16 10:28 PM
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Fired up the car and still ABS lights on.
Just looked at the rear ones(sensor) and there is no place to unplug them to check em. It is one piece going all the way into the rear trunk pan next to the battery. I can see 4 wires coming into the trunk floor and they are are like twisted and go into a large harness of wires. That must be a plug right, in the trunk floor? Can I unplug it there to probe them?
How do ABS sensors come for a 300? Can you buy just one side or is there a deal where both come together because that is what it looks like?
No way to probe them that I can see. Did not look at the fronts yet but I bet I run into the same thing up front.
What now?? I think I see ABS stuff up front right next to the front fuse box. Think the problem is up there? I guess I will look closer up there, not much too see though?
Dealer time? I hate to do that.
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/28/16 02:34 AM
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I had a few over the years that the ABS light came on and it did not set a code. I found a few that had intermitant wheel sensor problems but I could actually hear the ABS unit cycle some of the solenoids in it at times when it acted up. I drove them with the windows up and radio off and sometimes when I would just touch the brake pedal real easy and no wheels were locking but I would here the ABS unit cycle some of its solenoids. I then would drive the car and moniter each wheel sensor individually until I found the one acting up and causing the ABS unit to cyle its solenoids. I had a lab scope that worked with the Mopar DRBII that worked great for this and the newer years I could actually record the sensors with the Co-Pilot to find which wheel sensor circuit the problem was on. When I recorded it I made a custom template and only redording the wheel sensors as the less on the recording the faster it looked at each circuit. Good luck with yours , Ron
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/28/16 02:48 PM
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Check the tone rings real good.Ive had a few cracked that are hard to see.Typically you need to clear the codes on ABS with scanner.The abs also acts as traction control IIRC.Been a while since ive worked on one.Use Google to look up speed sensor harness etc.You can find lots of info most times.Rocky
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/28/16 05:29 PM
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Is your car a plain 300, with a 2.7 litre? Here is a test for front sensor'
1. Check for battery voltage to the wheel speed sensor on the Dark Green/Light Green wire.
2. Check the output of the sensor while backprobing this same 12 volt circuit. The voltage will only change 0.2 of a volt, while slowly turning the wheel.
3. A magnet can be used on the end of the speed sensor to pass it back and forth to see if the speed sensor picks up the signal.
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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Is your car a plain 300, with a 2.7 litre? Here is a test for front sensor'
1. Check for battery voltage to the wheel speed sensor on the Dark Green/Light Green wire.
2. Check the output of the sensor while backprobing this same 12 volt circuit. The voltage will only change 0.2 of a volt, while slowly turning the wheel.
3. A magnet can be used on the end of the speed sensor to pass it back and forth to see if the speed sensor picks up the signal. Thanks for your post, the car is a touring model with the 3.5 motor. Where do I find the dark and light green wires? and how do I probe them? Using a magnet how can I tell if it is picking up the magnet. Sorry if this sounds stupid. I did some research last night online but did not find anything pertaining to this model car. The reluctor wheel is in a sealed area and I can't see it to tell if it is dirty or damaged. This is a very clean car that has not seen snow, salt since my FIL bought it at 26K miles. It now has 56K miles on it.
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Re: ABS light on a 2007 300 question.
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10/28/16 08:58 PM
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The OBD2 reader cant read the abs codes as far as I know. It does take a different code reader. Maybe time to buy some new toys.
Also did a quick read online and what your experiencing seems pretty common with the 300,s. Heck, just disconnecting the batt, is causing some of the same issues for some.
Since you did just change the brakes and rotors, you most likely caused the codes by loose dirt being tossed around at a sensor, and now that you Cleaned them the codes or light just remain on, until shut off.
The ABS system may be fine, and just needs reset. Also, some 300,s have their own diagnostic systems that can be read by turning the key to on, then acc, to on, then acc, then to on . Then the codes show up on the dash, forget what that system is called. EVIC Edit.
Best cause of action is to buy a code reader that can read your ABS codes probably. Otherwise its a wild goose chase.
I need a ABS reader myself. I could of used one myself a couple of times when I was trying to bleed a ABS system on a chevy blazer. Turns out it helps to cycle the ABS with the code reader while bleeding the brakes, otherwise it takes Much longer.
Also, hows the front wheel bearings, they can set off the ABS also, when worn, long shot though, I'm sure that's not the problem.
EDIT; The 300 self diognostic is called EVIC
@nd EDIT, Not sure the EVIC will get that detailed either.
Last edited by Sport440; 10/28/16 09:19 PM.
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