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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: Cab_Burge] #2184943
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Simpson 260 and Triplett anolog meters will out last every one of us. Digitial meters with even the slightest over voltage condition will be toast in milliseconds. EMP that all the preppers are so worried about will render the digitals useless.


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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: denfireguy] #2184984
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Originally Posted By denfireguy
Simpson 260 and Triplett anolog meters will out last every one of us.


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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: moparpro] #2185487
10/29/16 08:51 PM
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Ever get your 260 calibrated?

Drop it once and it needs calibration.

Drop it once and it needs a new case. Bakelite breaks real easy.

You realize that 260's will also be useless in an EMP event?

Still have electronics inside them.

I don't know what digital meters you use, but the good ones have auto ranging so unless you exceed the 600V or 1000V rating of the meter you shouldn't fry anything and if you do exceed those limits you shouldn't be messing with electricity to begin with.

I used to have to fix and calibrate 260's in the Navy. Two things I learned, a 260 was never in cal when I got it and the Flukes always were.


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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: Supercuda] #2185570
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All of our VOM had leather cases,Simpson or Tripletts. I've seen more than one Simpson meter in its case get drop from 21 ft. above ground and not break the case shruggy Different work inviroiments(SP?) probably result in different results. Our guys had to fix the problem they were assigned to fix that day and usually had multiple tools to do the job, they took good care of their best tools shruggy

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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: moparpro] #2185825
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Boy am I glad to hear I'm not the only one having issues finding a good sending unit.
The first one I got was an OER from Classic Industries and worked well but it needed to be adjusted since my gas gauge read about 1/4 tank off. I pulled it back out of the tank to adjust the float and I broke it.
The second one was from Summit. about $20 cheaper than the one from Classic Industries. That one was a POS. You can read my review on Summit. Summit refunded me 100% of my money when they got my review. I attached my Fluke meter to it and moved the float up and down and the resistance jumped all over the place then it just quit all together.
Third one is the OER from Classic Industries just like the first one. Now when my fuel gauge is on empty, I have about 3 gallons left.

Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: patosmith] #2185936
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Originally Posted By patosmith
Boy am I glad to hear I'm not the only one having issues finding a good sending unit.
The first one I got was an OER from Classic Industries and worked well but it needed to be adjusted since my gas gauge read about 1/4 tank off. I pulled it back out of the tank to adjust the float and I broke it.
The second one was from Summit. about $20 cheaper than the one from Classic Industries. That one was a POS. You can read my review on Summit. Summit refunded me 100% of my money when they got my review. I attached my Fluke meter to it and moved the float up and down and the resistance jumped all over the place then it just quit all together.
Third one is the OER from Classic Industries just like the first one. Now when my fuel gauge is on empty, I have about 3 gallons left.


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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: patosmith] #2185949
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Is the needle above the E or right on it when it has 3 gallons left or below the E? If above or right on it that is good, if below you know you still have 3 gallons to get to a fuel stop work up
Either way you now know exactly what you have boogie grin
My airplane would empty the 30 gallon right tank when it read between 1/4 and empty shock That really rattled me the first time it did that puke Luckily the left tank was still full boogie
I filled both tanks when I landed, the right tank took 29.7 gallons, the gauge was accurate at full only runaway
I replace that sender ASAP and I had to calibrate (bend it down to sit on the bottom of the cell) the new one to get it accurate at empty per the FAA regulations work
Ain't hot rodding fun whistling grin

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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: moparpro] #2186161
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Seems to me the aftermarket sending units I've seen don't have the same number of windings in the resistor coil as stock - lot's of wide gaps between the wiring vs an OE one where the wires are tightly packed together.

Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: Sixpak] #2186247
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You make a good point up A variable resistor is determined by the total resistance between the pickup and the gauge, the more windings the more total resistance work


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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: Cab_Burge] #2186598
10/31/16 12:24 PM
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Wire wound rheostats are made usually of nichrome wire. Nichrome came in different resitances per length of wire. So different types will have different number of turns to achieve the proper total resistance. The number of turns are adjusted to achieve the desired total. The number of turns only effects the resolution as long as the total ohms is the same.
The main reason none of the newer senders are accurate is because years ago manufacturers decided Ford and Mopar senders were close enough to each other, they quit making them to match Mopar. So once again, we got tossed to the curb. The Tanks, Inc sender went to 5/8 of a tank when full. Just put in a Spectra tank. Should know this afternoon where it goes on full.
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Re: new gas sending unit ohms numbers [Re: moparpro] #2188220
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Follow up: Just finished the installation of a Spectra CR8CFI fuel injection tank that came complete with the in tank fuel pump and senver gauge. Filled the tank and the gauge went to just above full. First after market sender that fully deflected the gauge I have run into. The gauge measured 8 ohms when full.
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