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Wally World's ATF+4 ??? #2155125 09/15/16 03:01 PM 09/15/16 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,237 North Central, Indiana Roughbird72 OP pro stock
Roughbird72 OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,237 North Central, Indiana	Does anyone know who makes Walmart's Super Tech ATF+4 or the quality of it? 72 Plymouth Roadrunner 11.08@123.25

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2155128 09/15/16 03:04 PM 09/15/16 03:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,129 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,129 Bend,OR USA	I've seen on here that Phillips makes it and also Conoco I use it in my Ram CTD 3500 4 whd drive Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2155140 09/15/16 03:20 PM 09/15/16 03:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,237 North Central, Indiana Roughbird72 OP pro stock
Roughbird72 OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,237 North Central, Indiana	Thanks Cab! Need to change the fluid & filter in my 07 1500 4x4 Ram, but want to get some input before i decide which fluid to use. The price they have on it is quite low compared to others. 72 Plymouth Roadrunner 11.08@123.25

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2155211 09/15/16 05:29 PM 09/15/16 05:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,129 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,129 Bend,OR USA	Free enterprise system works, the more you buy of a product the bigger discount you can get Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2155724 09/16/16 02:03 PM 09/16/16 02:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,069 Michigan A A727Tflite master
A727Tflite master A Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,069 Michigan	All ATF + 4 is made under license from Chrysler and has to use the base stock and additive package to be approved as ATF + 4.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: A727Tflite] #2155747 09/16/16 02:36 PM 09/16/16 02:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,168 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,168 PA.	I use their store brand oil (Walmart) in my daily drivers and if I remember right it says Valvoline in the small print so check it out. It may be the same. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2155776 09/16/16 03:10 PM 09/16/16 03:10 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,561 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,561 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Pretty sure it's made by Warren Oil Company. Their Walmart label stuff gets good reviews on Bobistheoilguy as far as analysis goes. Kevin

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2155918 09/16/16 07:37 PM 09/16/16 07:37 PM
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allmopar member A Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 110 S.E. WI	Let me tell you about my experience with Wally World ATF+4. I did a trans filter change on my 03 T&C minivan and used the Wally World trans fluid. I had all kinds of jerky upshifts and downshifts. I thought the filter was not on correct and sucking air. I dropped the trans pan again and found the filter was fine. Still had shift issues so I changed the shift solenoid pack. Still had jerky shifts. Then I drained out the Wally World oil and replaced it with Valvoline. Trans shifted smoothly immediately and has been just fine for the last 2 years. I bought the wally fluid because it was cheaper but it really cost me in the long run.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2156124 09/17/16 09:27 AM 09/17/16 09:27 AM
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360view Moparts resident spammer 3 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 8,162 USA	The original additive package for ATF+4 was made by Lubrizol, which is now a division of Berkshire Hathaway. I wonder if some less expensive ATF+4 uses a non-Lubrizol additive in less expensive syn base oil?

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2156773 09/18/16 12:31 PM 09/18/16 12:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,237 North Central, Indiana Roughbird72 OP pro stock
Roughbird72 OP pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,237 North Central, Indiana	After a little searching i found the Mopar brand for $5.33 a quart. 72 Plymouth Roadrunner 11.08@123.25

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2157374 09/19/16 01:48 PM 09/19/16 01:48 PM
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A727Tflite master A Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,069 Michigan	Regarding the jerky shifts after a fluid change on your 41TE. That is not uncommon after a fluid change - regardless of the fluid. It is always suggested to perform the "quick learn" with the scan tool to reset the adaptive values after a trans replacement, overhaul, valve body, solenoid pack replacement and in many cases just the fluid change. If you don't use the scan tool to reset the adaptives - it just takes longer for the trans controller to learn again - by driving it and performing various upshift and down shifts - it will accomplish the same learning - this is called the "drive learn". It only learns between approx. 80 to 120 F - lower or higher than these temps - it won't learn.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: A727Tflite] #2157388 09/19/16 02:00 PM 09/19/16 02:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,168 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,168 PA.	Originally Posted By Transman Regarding the jerky shifts after a fluid change on your 41TE. That is not uncommon after a fluid change - regardless of the fluid. It is always suggested to perform the "quick learn" with the scan tool to reset the adaptive values after a trans replacement, overhaul, valve body, solenoid pack replacement and in many cases just the fluid change. If you don't use the scan tool to reset the adaptives - it just takes longer for the trans controller to learn again - by driving it and performing various upshift and down shifts - it will accomplish the same learning - this is called the "drive learn". It only learns between approx. 80 to 120 F - lower or higher than these temps - it won't learn. That's what I was thinking. My transmission builder won't let you pick up your vehicle after a rebuild til he puts 20 miles on it. Thanks for chiming in. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: A727Tflite] #2157465 09/19/16 03:37 PM 09/19/16 03:37 PM
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allmopar member A Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 110 S.E. WI	I aggree with what you are saying about the jerky shifts after a fluid change but this was still jerky after weeks of daily driving. the 2-3 upshift and the 2-1 downshift. That is why I changed the solenoid pack. After a few days the jerky shift came back and then I decided one last try to swap the fluid. This whole process was over a few months of researching the issues and trying different solutions. Once the fluid was changed the shifts were smooth and 45,000mi later they are still smooth.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: allmopar] #2157477 09/19/16 03:54 PM 09/19/16 03:54 PM
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allmopar member A Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 110 S.E. WI	Forgot to mention that I did do the quick learn and it only helped for a few days. That was before the new solenoid pack.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2157613 09/19/16 06:43 PM 09/19/16 06:43 PM
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A727Tflite master A Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,069 Michigan	Not to beat this to death - but why did you change the fluid to start with? How many miles on the trans/vehicle? And did you do the quick learn after the pack was replaced? What scan tool did you use to do the quick learn? Just wonderin'

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2157814 09/19/16 11:20 PM 09/19/16 11:20 PM
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135sohc mopar 1 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 637 SoMd, USA	I have used it for several years now, works fine.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: 135sohc] #2157912 09/20/16 01:38 AM 09/20/16 01:38 AM
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allmopar member A Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 110 S.E. WI	the minivan had 150,000 miles when I did that fluid change. I do it every 50,000 miles. I am almost at 200k now. This was just my experience with wally world +4. I used it in the past in a chrysler LHS and it worked fine. I am sure it works fine for other people in other vehicles but I will not buy it again.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: allmopar] #2157916 09/20/16 01:45 AM 09/20/16 01:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,168 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,168 PA.	Thinking my buddy told me that the mini vans had a transmission filter in the radiator that needed changed too while servicing the transmission 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2157940 09/20/16 03:22 AM 09/20/16 03:22 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,083 SE PA Yellow Fever super stock
Yellow Fever super stock Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,083 SE PA	I've been using the Walmart ATF+4 in everything, never a problem. Just used it in my Challenger and used the Mercedes trans pan with the drain plug for easier oil changes down the road.

Re: Wally World's ATF+4 ??? [Re: Roughbird72] #2157968 09/20/16 08:52 AM 09/20/16 08:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,788 Greer, SC TooMany62s top fuel
TooMany62s top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,788 Greer, SC	I would be careful buying from a retailer that buys the cheapest stuff they can find and does not have the facilities or expertise to monitor the quality of what they sell. Maybe the supplier they're buying from today is a good one but no one knows who will be making their stuff tomorrow. The whole idea of putting their name on the can is so they can change suppliers at any time. Just my two cents.

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