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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: Thumperdart] #2155920
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Great run, over 2/10's and 3 mph improvement.
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69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: mikeysmopars] #2155937
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Originally Posted By mikeysmopars
OK, back at it at Famoso. Changed the headers to 2 1/8th stepped from the 1 7/8". Changed timing from 34 to 38. First run at noon and went 9.72 @ 139 and spun on the TB, only change from there was went to foot brake. Went 9.64. @ 139 and 60 foot cam back a little. I'm not understanding the coil overs very much and its not transferring the weight. Anyway the air is around 2600 right now. It still has more in it just need to keep working on it. Only the 5th run on this combo.



Love it.............now what to all the naysayers........it will go easy 50`s or better when sorted out and Pettis`s dyno is just fine thank you.................. beer boogie penguin drive catfight


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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: mikeysmopars] #2155949
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Originally Posted By mikeysmopars
OK, back at it at Famoso. Changed the headers to 2 1/8th stepped from the 1 7/8". Changed timing from 34 to 38. First run at noon and went 9.72 @ 139 and spun on the TB, only change from there was went to foot brake. Went 9.64. @ 139 and 60 foot cam back a little. I'm not understanding the coil overs very much and its not transferring the weight. Anyway the air is around 2600 right now. It still has more in it just need to keep working on it. Only the 5th run on this combo.



Those headers made a huge difference. Monte was correct.

You picked up .04 @ 330-- .09 @ 660 and .14 @ 1000 and another .035 from 1000' on.

Definitely making 700 hp. up


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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: Thumperdart] #2156095
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Dyno Deffo ok according to that 9.64@139, lots of different calcs around but I've got used to using Wallace in my racing years and this is what it spits out>

3500lbs/771hp>

60 Foot E.T. : 1.34
1/8 Mile E.T. : 6.09
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 111.69
1/4 Mile E.T. : 9.64
1/4 Mile Trap Speed : 139

with still some sorting to be done, 50's or even 40's are in it, well done. up .......a lot of the happy dyno stories are probably because people don't use the same parts and tune that were used on the day in the room and or their chassis just isn't up to the hp, its just conditions that can never really be duplicated.....thats an awesome motor!

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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: Thumperdart] #2156130
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Hey Mikey I may have missed it but do you care to share the motor internals


71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it.
67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's
Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: rb446] #2156140
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Originally Posted By rb446
Dyno Deffo ok according to that 9.64@139, lots of different calcs around but I've got used to using Wallace in my racing years and this is what it spits out>

3500lbs/771hp>

60 Foot E.T. : 1.34
1/8 Mile E.T. : 6.09
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 111.69
1/4 Mile E.T. : 9.64
1/4 Mile Trap Speed : 139

with still some sorting to be done, 50's or even 40's are in it, well done. up .......a lot of the happy dyno stories are probably because people don't use the same parts and tune that were used on the day in the room and or their chassis just isn't up to the hp, its just conditions that can never really be duplicated.....thats an awesome motor!


3150# Les


69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: Thumperdart] #2156290
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oops, yes Mick 3150 must've been crossed up with another thread/car.....well in that case...

3150/695 fly hp

60 Foot E.T. : 1.34
1/8 Mile E.T. : 6.08
1/8 Mile Trap Speed : 111.75
1/4 Mile E.T. : 9.64
1/4 Mile Trap Speed : 139

I guess there's more hp in that motor to show yet with some more tuning, conditions/altitude etc..............


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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: rb446] #2157422
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Loosened my rear shocks QA-1 single adjustable and dropped tires from 11 to 10 lbs and in 100 degree heat got the best 60 foot ever, still footbraking. Air guage was at 3200 feet with 25% humidity. I'm dying to run this in good air!

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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: mikeysmopars] #2157428
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Originally Posted By mikeysmopars
Loosened my rear shocks QA-1 single adjustable and dropped tires from 11 to 10 lbs and in 100 degree heat got the best 60 foot ever, still footbraking. Air guage was at 3200 feet with 25% humidity. I'm dying to run this in good air!


Coming around nicely Mikey and will fly in winter air and maybe a side by side for old times sake WITH video this time........... beer


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Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: mikeysmopars] #2157617
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Thanks for sharing the results. Al warned of that tracks average bad running air. You have 9.50s in the bag for sure with some good air. :>)

Re: Mikey`s Mopar 470 on the pump.............GUESSES? [Re: 67mprfan] #2157637
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Originally Posted By 67mprfan
Hey Mikey I may have missed it but do you care to share the motor internals


Sorry for not getting back to you. Been busy but has eagle crank,Hbeam rods, wyseco pistons, Indy 295 EZ heads max wedge ported by Indy. Compression 11.2 cam spec is in earlier post,
block is stock 230 low deck 400 zero decked. 469.2 inch
has isky red zone lifters slight offset. bushed lifter galleys.
Harland sharp rockers 1.6 Manton pushrods, total seal rings.
Milodon external oil system. Jason Pettis overhauled what I had and did his magic with cam, balancing, & valve job and Dyno.

I am pretty happy with it so far, just need to make it hook better now!


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