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Big Block 383 Rebuild questions #2154220
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Hi I'm Felix from Germany
I want to swap in my old 383 but first we want to rebuild them
We have a set of new Pistons 0030
Original 383
So we think about follow parts
Edelbrock 650 cfm
Edelbrock Performer air intake
Edelbrock Plus Camshaft
Original Crankshaft
Original Rods
Original 906 heads with valve springs from edelbrock
Transmission TCI 727
Torque Converter I don't know
Rear axle 8 3/4 with 3:23 sure grip
Can help anybody me .
Thanks Felix

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Re: Big Block 383 Rebuild questions [Re: FelixM1992] #2154317
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Welcome aboard Felix. sounding like a mild daily driver? TCI rebuild kit I am assuming. I would suggest some Stealth aluminum heads as opposed to sinking money into antiquated 906 iron heads. more details: what vehicle, what application, budget. do you already have the 383? better would be a 400 block with an offset ground 440 crank for 470 cubes & the external dimentions would be the same for fitment


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Originally Posted By RapidRobert
Welcome aboard Felix. sounding like a mild daily driver? TCI rebuild kit I am assuming. I would suggest some Stealth aluminum heads as opposed to sinking money into antiquated 906 iron heads. more details: what vehicle, what application, budget. do you already have the 383? better would be a 400 block with an offset ground 440 crank for 470 cubes & the external dimentions would be the same for fitment


Did you notice he is in GERMANY ???

I agree on not sinking money into those heads , but it may not be an option.


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Re: Big Block 383 Rebuild questions [Re: FelixM1992] #2154402
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I have a 69 HP engine
With 0030 pistons and a original crankshaft .
I want to rebuild the 906 heads because i have not so many money this year.
Which parts are the best ?

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What part number pistons do you have ?


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Everything you have listed is fine to use, do you already have the TCI transmission , if it's just a streetfighter it's nothing special. A basic rebuild with stock type parts and a shift kit, you pay the big bucks because you are paying for their race sponserships.


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Re: Big Block 383 Rebuild questions [Re: FelixM1992] #2154477
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You really need to look at the pistons and heads to make sure you have enough compression. Some 383 pistons will give you extremely low compression especially on a 906 head.

Don't ask me how I know........


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I bought this set in summit Federal Mogul Premium Engine Rebuild Kits MKP-667E300 here is the part number
I don't have any transmission for it .
You can watch on summit thank you for your help

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Originally Posted By markz528
Some 383 pistons will give you extremely low compression especially on a 906 head.


Agreed. You can overcome some of this with a cam that has a more aggressive lift rate. I think there are better options out there than that Performer RPM cam if you're using some ~8:1 Speed Pro flat tops.

The Comp XE268 will work with power brakes and a stock converter. It will also preserve some of the low end you'll be giving up with the loss in compression.


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Originally Posted By FelixM1992
I bought this set in summit Federal Mogul Premium Engine Rebuild Kits MKP-667E300 here is the part number
I don't have any transmission for it .
You can watch on summit thank you for your help


You don't want that kit , if you have not bought it yet don't, it uses this piston which will give you barely 8.0 compression .

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/slp-366ap30

383 piston selection is horrible, the stock piston in the 69 383HP is .0025 in the hole , with the stock 906 the compression is barely 9.2 , not the 10.0 that chrysler rates it at.

The TCI transmission is grossly overpriced for what you are getting, don't waste you money on it either. Contact John Cope/CRT and see what he can do for you .



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The OP mentions money being a determining factor in the short term. That engine kit will get the car on the road inexpensively even if it isn't an ideal piston. Based on the parts list, I'm inferring a slightly warmer street engine is the goal. That can definitely be accomplished with smog pistons assuming the OP picks a cam that makes the most of cylinder pressure--and octane rating will be a complete non-issue.


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Originally Posted By BMChrysler68
The OP mentions money being a determining factor in the short term. That engine kit will get the car on the road inexpensively even if it isn't an ideal piston. Based on the parts list, I'm inferring a slightly warmer street engine is the goal. That can definitely be accomplished with smog pistons assuming the OP picks a cam that makes the most of cylinder pressure--and octane rating will be a complete non-issue.


Money is the funny part , here is the same Kit with Forged piston , though it is with a .040 over piston. it's cheaper than the cast piston low compression kit.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fem-csmhp738-400/overview/make/dodge

And a kit .030 piston and oversize bearings , I don't know if he has confirmed the crank is ok at std journal sizes?

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fem-csmhp738-311/overview/make/dodge



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Re: Big Block 383 Rebuild questions [Re: JohnRR] #2154685
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No way is a Comp XE268 the right cam for an 8:1 383. The largest cam I'd say fit the bill would be Nughes SEH1016BL-12 http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/produ...mp;partid=30251
Or Lunati Voodoo cam 10230700
Or Comp XE256H 21-221-4

Another thing is compression: Don't put a lot into the 906s right now, the Edelbrock E-Street heads at 75cc will put the engine right at 9.0:1.
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What is thing I can do with the Pistons then I bought .
Edelbrock plus camshaft ?
Original transmission ?
Torque converter stock ?
Edelbrock 75cc heads ?

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Car is a 71 super bee Charger
Budget with Engine Transmission rear axle 6000-8000€
I have a 383 from 69 HP
Piston Rebuid Set from summit

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You already have the kit so it's not as easy as just sending it back , I imagine it wasn't cheap to get it to you .


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Is that budget entirely for the engine build? Because that works out to a max of about $9000 US.

Which is a lot of money for a 383 rebuild.

I don't know what pr9cves are like in Europe but that would be a monster build here. A complete 440source stroker kit is $2249, rods, pistons, crank, bearings all balanced and ready to install,.

Another $1000 gets you a pair of all new aluminum cylinder heads.

That's less than half your budget and most of the hard parts done and new.


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Hi Felix,
I'm with JohnRR on the pistons, the selection is horrible for a 383.
Maybe you want to join the german mopar-forum.de - a lot of knowledge and easier communication.
Greets from Hamburg, Germany.

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How good is the gas in Germany? 906 heads are fine, tons of race engines used these heads and did fine. Don't go over board on the cam, takes away drivability. Most here on Moparts will have you building a $50,000 race engine to putt around on the street. Keep it simple, you'll be fine with what you got. Good luck on your endeavor. Let us know how it works out. Mike

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Felix,
Please tell us what items you have already purchased. We can work from there.

You do have to watch out for racers telling you how to build a street engine. It happens all the time here.

When you respond we can get down to the most bang for your Euro. Doesn't sound nearly as cool as "bang for your buck", where the word buck is slang for dollar. (And the word dollar is derived from your word thaler).

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