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Ford package car at Pomona.......... #215432
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Out of the box Calvert is #2 at 1.17 under.


How are the guys doing with the Challeneger package cars?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RatIUzWi_vA


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Re: Ford package car at Pomona.......... [Re: slantzilla] #215433
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No challenger package cars there today, the cj mustangs ran hard and fast though they looked pretty stupid with there retro ford dealer names on them. One even had Gas Ronda's name on the door, pretty hokey if you ask me. Gary Stinnett ran 135 with his at 10.0, but dumped it at the finish line. Waldo's car was impressive also but he's always had fast cars

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The only reason those cars aren't in the 9's is because they have a roll bar....no cage.


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Mandella Racecars about two weeks ago to have
the balance of tubing added for a cage. Ford
only installed a 8 point roll bar in the cars.


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The only reason those cars aren't in the 9's is because they have a roll bar....no cage.




Don't Stock and Super Stock cars get a pass on that? They only have to meet requirements for class index no matter how fast they go?

I have seen many reports of them being over 135 in testing.


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IIRC either Mopar Action or Mopar Muscle recently made some passes in the SS Challenger and ran low tens but I cannot remember the mph.


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Re: Ford package car at Pomona.......... [Re: DemonKyle] #215442
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As of right now the Challenger is not even classified yet so they can not run. FYI Robert Pond went a 9.76 yesterday in Q2. 2100' so get that car in good air and 9.50's are in reach. Funny how supercharged package cars were never allowed in Stock until this year. I see the Roush P51 package Mustangs are legal too. Ford must have quite an in at Glendora.


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No challenger package cars there today, the cj mustangs ran hard and fast though they looked pretty stupid with there retro ford dealer names on them. One even had Gas Ronda's name on the door, pretty hokey if you ask me. Gary Stinnett ran 135 with his at 10.0, but dumped it at the finish line. Waldo's car was impressive also but he's always had fast cars



So did you think Pannela's Sox & Martin tribute pro stocker was hokey ? These cars are a tribute to the 1968 CJ cars that raced and won at Pomona in '68. The original drivers including Gas Ronda, Al Joniec and Hubert Platt are there with the cars this weekend. If you appreciated drag racing history you wouldn't think it was "hokey".

The cars that are racing this weekend have cages in them and the drivers are licensed.


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How did the Fords get classified so quick? Probably by sending a truck load of money to Glendora via Force he`s such a hero they`ll do anything or him. I hate to say it but typical Mopar always one step behind.


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Pic of Calvert, very cool cars!

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=174908&Filter=30#indextop

I think Ford Motorsport has done a better job of getting the cars approved. Mopar terminated all of their guys, didn't they?

At least they did a good job promoting the SS/AH cars while it lasted.

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How did the Fords get classified so quick? Probably by sending a truck load of money to Glendora via Force he`s such a hero they`ll do anything or him. I hate to say it but typical Mopar always one step behind.




I would venture that the Fords got classified because they were serious about building race cars, not some "you build it kit" for an ungodly amount of money. Plus, they actually built the cars. However, there is a bogus Ford combo out there that was approved on a letter from Carroll Shelby and how he "remembered" building cars that never existed.

Mopar could get the Challenger classified if one really existed. Unfortunately the "kit" can be built in so many different ways they probably can't get the 50 that the guidelines call for.

Ford built 50 turnkey cars and sold every one of them. They figure 15-18 will actually be race cars, and the rest went to collectors.

Blowers and turbos have always been legal in Stock/SS.


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Ford built 50 of these cars and they all were sold before they were even built. None of the cars were given away to racers, all were purchased. There will be a second run of 2010 cars built much the same way. I know a supplier who is already building parts for the 2010 cars. Ford has a drag racer now in charge of Ford Racing, Brian Wolfe. He was one of the founders of the Pro 5.0 class and is still a racer. He knows what real racers want and need. These cars have created more of a buzz in sportsman drag racing than any car I can ever remember. They are truely the offspring of the '68 CJ Mustangs. Love them or hate them (I love em') they are the result of an automaker getting involved in real world sportsman drag racing not some carbon fiber replicar. Every part to build these cars is in the Ford Racing catalog.

Chrysler has dropped the ball with the drag pack Challenger. I hope they get the ball rolling with the project. It would be great to see them running against these great Mustangs.


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No challenger package cars there today, the cj mustangs ran hard and fast though they looked pretty stupid with there retro ford dealer names on them. One even had Gas Ronda's name on the door, pretty hokey if you ask me. Gary Stinnett ran 135 with his at 10.0, but dumped it at the finish line. Waldo's car was impressive also but he's always had fast cars



So did you think Pannela's Sox & Martin tribute pro stocker was hokey ? These cars are a tribute to the 1968 CJ cars that raced and won at Pomona in '68. The original drivers including Gas Ronda, Al Joniec and Hubert Platt are there with the cars this weekend. If you appreciated drag racing history you wouldn't think it was "hokey".

The cars that are racing this weekend have cages in them and the drivers are licensed.




To answer your question, NO!! On the S&M cars the paint schemes looked like the days of old, the CJ mustangs look like lettering that a 5 yr old would do if he or she was showing you their idea of a racecar. I more than enjoyed watching that 427 Ford station wagon run like a raped ape, but even if those personalities were there to watch them race these tribute cars they could have done a better job in how they looked. Just my opinion on that so take it for what it's worth. Al Corda's ride was more than impressive as was Bobby DeArmonds Camaro, the CJ's just didn't impress me with their throwback style tributes. As for caring for drag racing history, yes I do as I have both tuned and raced the former Maverick '63 Aluminum front end car before it wound up back on the east coast and my wifes uncle is James Warren of the famous Warren, Coburn & Miller TF dragster team. In short, if that's there idea of how a throwback car should look, IMO they missed it by a mile.

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Out of the box Calvert is #2 at 1.17 under.


How are the guys doing with the Challeneger package cars?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RatIUzWi_vA




i wish that people who post videos like that would at least show the score board or say what it ran. (10.80 on an 11.25 index)

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No challenger package cars there today, the cj mustangs ran hard and fast though they looked pretty stupid with there retro ford dealer names on them. One even had Gas Ronda's name on the door, pretty hokey if you ask me. Gary Stinnett ran 135 with his at 10.0, but dumped it at the finish line. Waldo's car was impressive also but he's always had fast cars



So did you think Pannela's Sox & Martin tribute pro stocker was hokey ? These cars are a tribute to the 1968 CJ cars that raced and won at Pomona in '68. The original drivers including Gas Ronda, Al Joniec and Hubert Platt are there with the cars this weekend. If you appreciated drag racing history you wouldn't think it was "hokey".

The cars that are racing this weekend have cages in them and the drivers are licensed.




To answer your question, NO!! On the S&M cars the paint schemes looked like the days of old, the CJ mustangs look like lettering that a 5 yr old would do if he or she was showing you their idea of a racecar. I more than enjoyed watching that 427 Ford station wagon run like a raped ape, but even if those personalities were there to watch them race these tribute cars they could have done a better job in how they looked. Just my opinion on that so take it for what it's worth. Al Corda's ride was more than impressive as was Bobby DeArmonds Camaro, the CJ's just didn't impress me with their throwback style tributes. As for caring for drag racing history, yes I do as I have both tuned and raced the former Maverick '63 Aluminum front end car before it wound up back on the east coast and my wifes uncle is James Warren of the famous Warren, Coburn & Miller TF dragster team. In short, if that's there idea of how a throwback car should look, IMO they missed it by a mile.



They are letterd exactly as the original cars were. Not sure what you are looking for??

Chris Whitney owns the Fairlane wagon. He and Robert Pond just took delivery of a new '09 CJ Mustang.


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Robert Pond ran the 9.76 in his Fairlane. He and Chris Whitney didn't receive their cobra jet car until Wednesday at the track. Someone else mentioned it before me. But, supercharged cars have been on the books for S/SS since the beginning. There haven't been many in recent years. Bret Velde built a beautiful supercharged 03 Cobra and ran it all of last season. Had it classified in 05. That car probably has as much or more potential as these new cars as it's rated almost 40HP less.

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i wish that people who post videos like that would at least show the score board or say what it ran. (10.80 on an 11.25 index)




Nope. 10:08 on an 11:25 index.

Calvert is in A/S. Robert Pond is in AA/S and has gone 9:76 on a 10:70 (I believe) index.


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Jody, don't want to make this a pissing match so I'll leave it at that. I love those old ford stockers as much as the next guy and both Chris' & Robert's cars are two of my favorite stockers out there. Plain and simple I just didn't care for the lettering on the new CJ's, but for how they ran, they were damn impressive to me. I've always been a Waldo fan since the 67 Fairlane days so my hat is off to you on your car also. Anyway, the stockers at Pomona as always were great to watch, but I do feel bad for John Irving and what happened to him and his truck. So on that note, I got stuff to do around the house, so I'm outta here.

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Calvert is still in at 3 cars.


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Looks like Ford got it done...


Results for Final Round

POMONA, Calif. - SUMMIT FastNews - Results of final, round 7 eliminations in Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series, 49th annual Kragen O'Reilly NHRA Winternationals:
W/L Driver Class Dial RT ET Ov/Un

(W) John Calvert A/S 10.14 0.085 10.136 -0.004
(L) Tom Gaynor D/SA 10.73 -0.079(R)10.730 0.000

11:33 a.m. Weather conditions: air temperature 65 degrees, relative humidity 26 percent, barometer 29.04 inches, adjusted altitude 1,566 feet, track temperature 74 degrees.
We have our first final of the day.

Both cars had easy ones in the last round and this is a big disappointment for Gaynor, as he runs right on his dial, but was -0.079 red. Calvert takes the 2008 Mustang to the winner circle!

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No knock against Calvert, he is a good driver, but look at his last four rounds. One no-show and three red lights. That's why it's nice to have the faster car.

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Here is one of our Dealers who races M & M Racing's 69 Cobra Jet. It's a cool vid, showing a nice race of two CJ's.

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No knock against Calvert, he is a good driver, but look at his last four rounds. One no-show and three red lights. That's why it's nice to have the faster car.




We've all had those days where it goes our way whether it be cutting lites , driving the stripe well, or just plain luck. Regardless, I think its cool he put a brand new car in the winners circle.


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Way to go Calvert!
Not a Mopar but a class guy who makes a heck of a lot of Mopars faster
Double cheers for Ford. Mopar needs to take a hard look at Fords program if they want to compete. Hopefully things around the country will settle down so they can do just that. Cant wait

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Regardless of how John got to the final,it's a huge win for Ford to have their new car collect the Wally in it's debut.


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Look at the lights he was cutting and how close he was to his dial in all his rounds. That isn't that easy with a supercharged/stick car.

Calvert isn't exactly a rookie though. He has won Super Stock before with his '68 CJ car on 9" slicks.


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