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Early 90's Dakota #2135156
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I bought and sold some toys earlier this year and drug my low mile, always garage kept 97 Cobra out of the garage and turned it into my daily driver.

I had all intentions of driving it this Winter in the snow but, with Winter not that far away, I've been thinking about getting a beater to drive.

I've been looking at early 90's 4X4 318 or V6 Dakotas but haven't been able to find a whole lot of info regarding their reliability. I have noticed that the transmissions seem to be an issue; a 91 is up for sale locally with 94k on it with a slipping trans.

Are these things pretty good rides? Are there any known issues with them that I should look for?

We have a 2000 Durango 4X4 4.7 that we got with 123k on it and other than normal maintenance, it has been great. It would probably be a better idea to buy one a little newer like the Durango we have but, I like the square body style of the older ones.

Any insight would be appreciated.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135168
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The 91 will have the TBI engine. I'd steer clear. 1992+ will have the magnum port injected engines. Big upgrade over the old tbi engine. Don't bother with the 3.9 V6 trucks, they get the same mpg as the 5.2 trucks and obviously a very notable power difference. The only way I would consider a V6 dakota is if it was a stick shift.

All the dakotas and rams of the 90's have crap auto transmissions. Best thing you can do is get one with a stick, next best thing is to buy a cheap one with a shot trans so when you're done you know you've got a fresh rebuild.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135180
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I had a 95 2wd, 5.2 Magnum I bought new. It had two issues in the 72k miles I put on it. The CPS crapped out at around 60k and the typical intake gasket issue causing it to inhale oil that was fixed. Besides that, it was a great truck.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: SeventyGTX] #2135546
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Agree with Daytona on 1992 forward. I can't speak to the 4X4's but I've had two 5.2, auto RWD's.

First a '92 bought in Jan of 95 with 50K on the clock. Drove it until 2002 putting 265K on it. Very dependable! Engine and trans never touched. Replaced coil and water pump a couple of times, plus consumables including rotors and calipers around 190K. Starter at 230K. Mostly highway miles. Undoubtedly one of the best vehicles I've ever owned.

Second was a '93 bought in Aug 2008 with 145K on the clock. Previous owner said the transmission had recently been rebuilt. Drove it until October 2014, when I got my SRT at which time I handed it off to my daughter. We retired it last year when it began to miss and plugs and wires didn't fix it. I suspect the intake gasket issue, but just didn't see putting money into it. Coincidently, It had 265k on it too.


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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: Charger69RT8] #2135565
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I bought 92 V6 5-speed new and still miss that truck. frown Never an issues in 90K miles except for a trans output shaft seal while towing a 68 Dart 300 miles at 85 MPH. whistling 92 was the best year as they downgraded the camshaft in 93.


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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: Rhinodart] #2135579
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I just got this 96 sport V6 5 spd from friends of ours. He had owned it since almost new and never any problems just normal maintenance. 105k miles on it now, a/c still blows cold. My daughter will be turning 16 soon and I'm hoping to teach her to drive a stick and the Dakota is hers.

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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135586
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Biggest bummer on pre 97 daks, as far as 4x4's, is the poor turning radius I have found. Had a couple of 93 4x4 clubs w/5.2 and found open car trailer towing quite a breeze compared to the ramchargers I had for years.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135606
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Swept under the carpet by as many of the car mags as possible, the Dodge Dakota is one of the most reliable trucks made alongside the Ford Ranger. It pains them greatly to admit this since the POS Tacomas are apparently the greatest truck ever built.

Transmission is your only worry, look for a 5 speed and the real deal 318 Magnum. The tbi anythings and v6's are all crap. The 46re's are okay, but look for a low-mile one or something without a trailer hitch and abusive owner. Faithful trans oil changes at 60 thou or less is a plus.

The IFS, transfer case, rear-end, and V8's are all trouble-free. So much is written about the Magnums that issues are usually cap, rotor, plugs, throttle-position sensor, intake air temp sensor, water pump and sometimes the intake plenum.

That's it. You have no worries, it's a Dodge truck: that's why they are still on the road today. wink

How about a pic of your Cobra?


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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135619
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People seem to like them in general. Never heard any venom. Not sure about this hate for the v6. Had early daks for work trucks, a stick and auto. Werent bad. Not hot rods, but no reason not to love.


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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135642
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Ya let's see that cobra, I have a 97 gt. 32 mpg makes it a great work car slash daily driver.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: SomeCarGuy] #2135724
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Originally Posted By SomeCarGuy
Not sure about this hate for the v6.


Not that the V6 is unreliable, however the V6 when installed in these trucks yeilds the same mpg and significantly less power than the 5.2 magnum.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135741
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Not sure about all the hate for the TBI engines? I bought a '91 Dak 4x4 brand new.....probably the best truck I've ever had. Put well over 100k on it without any major issue. Tune-up,battery, brakes etc. Traded it for a '00 Dak 4x4 with a 4.7. Put 60k on that one with oil changes only. I "had" to have a full size so in '04 I bought a Ram QC Hemi. It wasn't long before I wanted a Dakota back...that Ram was a pos. It's a shame they had to make the Dakotas butt ugly before dropping them entirely. I personally know a dozen guys that would buy them if they would produce them again(in a not so ugly form).

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: Dcuda69] #2135765
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The TBI was a solid engine but absolutely gutless when doing work. My bro-in-law had a D150 that struggled to pull a lightweight sprint car on an open trailer.


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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2135826
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I just got a '91 318 TBI with 250k. The R12 a/c still blows cold. It was garaged when not in motion, so it's in really good shape for the miles. I'm actually thinking about selling my '01 R/T. I put colder plugs in the '91 and turned the timing up some. It actually seems to have some decent midrange power. The main thing I'd change about it at the moment is the rear end. It needs a sure grip, so it'll actually move on wet grass and such. Once I find a couple more R/T wheels and caps, I'm going to put them on it.


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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2136312
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Like any old ride, if you get one that has been abused, it will be junk. If you get one that has been well taken care of, it will likely be a great truck.

I've had a few different Dakotas. The 90 V6, TBI, 5 speed, with a 3:55 limited slip was a fun truck (and was a grate donor for hot rod chassis). Not a race car by any means, but it is fun. I blew up the V6 at around 165K.
The 91, V6, TBI, auto was a great work truck, until a patch of ice did it in. That motor went into the 90 chassis. It got 21.8 mpg on a recent 3402 mile trip.
The 93 Magnum V6, auto, 4x4, currently has around 160K miles. It gets 13 mpg in town, and around 17 on the highway. The 93 spent a lot of its time over the past 4 years just sitting (only driven about 3,000-4,000 miles per year), and as you can imagine, its getting pretty rough. I will replace it with another Dakota, maybe I look for a V8 this time, but the V6s are a lot easier to find. At least the early Dakota were great trucks, some of the newer ones seem to have issues. Gene

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: poorboy] #2136355
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While not a 4X4, I picked up my '93 Dakota last year. It currently has 166K on it. It has the V6 and auto.

I don't think it spent its entire life used and abused, but, I know the last owner wasn't too 'kind' to it.

I did the usual maintenance to it when I got it, updated the plenum gasket, and repaired a few things outside 'normal' wear.

It still has a couple of quirks that I haven't been able to figure out if they are electrical or fuel related, but, it has never left me stranded.

Biggest issue until recently was the AC not working. Now I may have to redo the intake gasket

BUT, despite its quirks, and its scars, I love this thing. It rides decent, its comfortable (to me anyway) and its not 'stupid big' like anything new.

The V6 is no powerhouse for sure, but has no issues keeping up with or passing traffic. I admittedly drive with a heavy foot and it gives me consistent 14MPG in almost 100% in town driving.





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Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2136480
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The Brazilian factory built diesel Dakota always interested me.

I would think that someone could have a nice side business converting the light weight early pre 1995 OBD-I USA supply of V6 gasoline auto trans Dakotas that no longer get emissions tested in most states to "nearly new" manual trans diesels using the Brazilian OEM parts.

A bit more "out there" would be building
Deutz air cooled diesel Dakotas using the one tractor manual trans that bolts up.
I was always impressed with the 1980s Deutz air cooled diesels on the big portable trash pumps.

40+ MPG diesel Dakotas are possible.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2136482
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Another possibility a Dakota rebuilder could offer would be to take the factory OEM natural gas parts off early 1990s Magnum 5.2 V8 Ram 15 passenger vans and transplant them plus a new certified large capacity high pressure natural gas cylinder onto early 1990s Dakotas with Magnum 408 ci V8s with MPI intake manifolds.

Natural gas 408 ci V8 Dakotas would have a low cost per mile driven,
even lower $ per per mile than a 40 MPG diesel Dakota.

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: parksr5] #2136550
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Ive had several Dakotas all being daily drivers.

The best one was a 92 Regular Cab Long bed with 5.2 and auto. Fun to drive and powerful!

Re: Early 90's Dakota [Re: Mopar1970440] #2136570
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1993 Sport,5.2,518 RH,3.55 sure grip and two wheel drive,131 K miles runs like a clock,best truck I've ever owned.

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