Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21338
12/22/05 04:16 PM
12/22/05 04:16 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



Just got this from a friend over the net a few days ago and seeing the old Don Grotheer A12 SS car in the A12 forum, I thought some of you guys might find it interesting. Will have to post it in 3 different attachments. It's essentially a point by point writeup on what went into the building of the S&M 440 SS/F cars circa 1968. I thought it was pretty cool. Hope the attachments work as it's fairly large. Some of you may have already seen this...

2238430-GTX1006.jpg (1119 downloads)
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21339
12/22/05 04:20 PM
12/22/05 04:20 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



2nd page...

2238436-GTX1007.jpg (967 downloads)
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21340
12/22/05 04:29 PM
12/22/05 04:29 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



last page...

2238450-GTX1008.jpg (1013 downloads)
Last edited by John_Baskin; 12/22/05 05:02 PM.
Post deleted by Defbob #21341
12/22/05 04:32 PM
12/22/05 04:32 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A




Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21342
12/22/05 04:41 PM
12/22/05 04:41 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



Check it now Fred. I had noticed that myself and it's the best page ironically. For some reason the last page doesn't want to load and it isn't any larger a file than the other 2

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21343
12/22/05 04:44 PM
12/22/05 04:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,619
Almost Heaven
B_Body_Bob Offline
Master of nothing
B_Body_Bob  Offline
Master of nothing

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,619
Almost Heaven
Still not found John.

That one shows up as a .bmp file, the other two are .jpgs, something must have went whacky during the upload.

Thanks for the effort, I'm looking forward to that last page.


Everybody makes fun of a hillbilly until they need something fixed
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article [Re: B_Body_Bob] #21344
12/22/05 04:46 PM
12/22/05 04:46 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



I just noticed that too Bob. Let me see if I can convert it and I'll stick the attachment in that same post...gimme a few.

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21345
12/22/05 05:04 PM
12/22/05 05:04 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



OK guys, that last page attachment is working now. I converted it from bitmap to jpeg...

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21346
12/22/05 05:06 PM
12/22/05 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,619
Almost Heaven
B_Body_Bob Offline
Master of nothing
B_Body_Bob  Offline
Master of nothing

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,619
Almost Heaven
Thanks John


Everybody makes fun of a hillbilly until they need something fixed
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21347
12/22/05 06:22 PM
12/22/05 06:22 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



Cool, thanks for sharing Merry Christmas

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21348
12/22/05 06:26 PM
12/22/05 06:26 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



thats some good reading, thanks!

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21349
12/22/05 07:55 PM
12/22/05 07:55 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



I've got a similar article from '67 on Arlen Vanke's '67 SS/E 440 GTX. Just the blueprinting he did to his motors, general set-up of the car etc etc. Vanke set the national record in SS/E class with that car.

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21350
12/23/05 11:44 AM
12/23/05 11:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,006
Yorktown VA
motorheadjohn Offline
Ridin' Shotgun
motorheadjohn  Offline
Ridin' Shotgun

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,006
Yorktown VA
Thanks!


Chicks in the mirror
are fatter than they appear
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article [Re: motorheadjohn] #21351
12/23/05 12:51 PM
12/23/05 12:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,844
Witness Protection Program
Kudakidd Offline
master
Kudakidd  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,844
Witness Protection Program
What intake was this 440 running? Looks like a CH4B

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article [Re: Kudakidd] #21352
12/23/05 01:22 PM
12/23/05 01:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,006
Yorktown VA
motorheadjohn Offline
Ridin' Shotgun
motorheadjohn  Offline
Ridin' Shotgun

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,006
Yorktown VA
Looked like a CH4B to me, too. This is the kind of stuff that makes me rethink my build plans. Conservative is better me thinks.


Chicks in the mirror
are fatter than they appear
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article [Re: motorheadjohn] #21353
12/23/05 04:19 PM
12/23/05 04:19 PM

A
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
Anonymous OP
Unregistered
A



Yes that was the CH4B. Eddy put that one out in the late 60s along with the DP4B for 383s and I've heard they were excellent intakes. Someone once disagreed with me and I could be wrong but both the DP4B and the CH4B are exactly the same intake as the standard performer intake yopu can get now. Not the RPM but the standard. For awhile in the mid 70s Eddy dropped the DP4B and CH4B designations and started calling the intake either the 440 Performer or the 383 Performer(I've seen a few older intakes marked this way) then at some point just the Performer. It's the same intake short of the notch that Eddy used to put in the originals in the plenum divider, plus the newer Performer I don't believe has the ridges in the bottom of the plenum that the old CH4Bs and DP4Bs had. Other than that, exact same intakes. Those worked great when there was no such animal as a single plane intake for Mopar wedge motors until around '70/'71 when the first Torquer etc came on the scene. You'd never get the old ones for instance to equal the performance of a good single plane but hey they were using those dual planes on the SS wedge cars all the way through them running well into the low 11s(at 3500+ lbs I might add) so they do work well. I see cars built now upon occasion running slower than some of those back then did and still a whole lot of 'better' parts on them, i.e. single planes, etc etc. That was obviously just a darn good combo that the Mopar guys worked out for the 440 SS cars back then. And it worked.

Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article #21354
12/23/05 05:29 PM
12/23/05 05:29 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,898
Milwaukee WI
R_Blaha Offline
top fuel
R_Blaha  Offline
top fuel

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,898
Milwaukee WI
Thats it, I'm going to my dealer tonight to order up a new GTX. Oh wait, looks like I missed 1969.. I wish I could do this..


LOOKING FOR THE 68 GTS IN THE AVATAR SPOT
1969 Dodge Superbee post coupe 383
1969 Dodge Superbee hardtop 472 hemi
1989 Mustang GT
1993 mustang lx 5.0
2004 screaming yellow cobra
2013 CVO Roadglide
Re: Old Sox&Martin 440 SS Article [Re: Kudakidd] #21355
12/23/05 05:32 PM
12/23/05 05:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,450
On the run…
BloFish Offline
I Live Here
BloFish  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,450
On the run…
awesome!


It really doesn't matter whether you win or lose…
as long as you look good doing it!

‘65 A100
‘69 ‘Cuda
‘73 Vega GT
‘06 Mega Cab
‘14 Mercedes SLK






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1