Re: Dominator or 4150?
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I will probably use an adapter but I have access to another intake manifold to try (same style) with the 4500 flange if it turns out to be better that way.
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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As Andy said.. if your leaving off the TB at higher rpm I would go 1050 dom.. I even used a 1050 dom on my 405ci and was thinking of trying a 1150.... but if your leaving at lower rpm the 4150 will be more responsive ![wave wave](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/wave.gif)
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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oldbracket racer. what's your 20? Springfield, Ohio. Near Dayton.
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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The Team G 4150 manifold is supposed to have better runner balance than the 4500 manifold. But you would need a 2" funnel adapter to run a 4500 on it. I'm leaning towards a 4500 carb giving you more power than the 4150. That being said, either way, I think you will make your index without an issue with either 1050 version.
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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I currently have it chipped at 3800 but the converter flashes to 5000. The intake I am currently using is a single plane team G with a tapered 1" spacer. A friend has the identical manifold with a 4500 flange I can get if I want it. Whats the rear suspension and does it spin at 3800 rpm... I loaned my buddy Randy(labrat rip)and we did a back to back from my 850dp that he was using to my 1050 dom.. the dom made more power but he spun hard with the dom.. he didnt spin with the 850 so due to spinning he didnt like the dom.. but it did make more power... he never liked to work on the suspension ![wave wave](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/wave.gif)
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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I currently have it chipped at 3800 but the converter flashes to 5000. The intake I am currently using is a single plane team G with a tapered 1" spacer. A friend has the identical manifold with a 4500 flange I can get if I want it. Whats the rear suspension and does it spin at 3800 rpm... I loaned my buddy Randy(labrat rip)and we did a back to back from my 850dp that he was using to my 1050 dom.. the dom made more power but he spun hard with the dom.. he didnt spin with the 850 so due to spinning he didnt like the dom.. but it did make more power... he never liked to work on the suspension Car is a backhalved 4link/ coilover car with 14/32 tires that goes 1.40/1.41 consistently as I am running it now. I get that more power could require more suspension adjustments but I need something to get where I want to go. Thanks to everyone for the replies, I really appreciate it. Mostly it just reaffirms what I was leaning toward anyway, but it sure helps to get the opinions of people with experience. Thanks to all.
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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The few times I've dynoed a motor with a 4150 TG intake the motor had a pretty big dip in the power curve, and/or didn't take the load well from the dyno. I never found this to happen with the 4500 YG intake.
IMO, swap the intake and carb. I'd run a 1050 4500, and either try that 4500 TG intake, or find a m1 4500. I don't think that combo is going to want a really big intake manifold. If you want something you could buy new, then I'd use the std Victor intake and the HVH super sucker/adapter.
Obviously you could try the HVH adapter on the 4150 TG first, but I think the Victor would be quicker.
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Re: Dominator or 4150?
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Years ago I did some testing on several different size carbs. on a stock stroke 440 bracket motor starting with a Holley 600 D.P. and then up to a Holley 950 HP on a Eddy TM7 intake in a car similars to yours with a trans brake in a 727 for Division 7 S/ST on a 4 tenths pro tree back in the the late 1980s. I ended up swapping the intake to a Mopar M1 4500 flange intake manifold and a Holley 9375 Dominator 1050 CFM non HP carb. at the end of the year. That car picked up over .6 E.T. in the 1/4 mile and 7 to 8 MPH increase with all of those changes ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif) It went faster and quicker every time I increase the CFM on the carb. ![work work](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/work.gif) These stupid Mopar 383/440 wedge type motors love more air and fuel ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif)
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