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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21314
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21315
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Has anyone asked their local ppg dealer for
"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black??????????????????????,"

or do i have to do it...

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: ThermoQuad] #21316
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Has anyone asked their local ppg dealer for
"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black??????????????????????,"

or do i have to do it...





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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: ThermoQuad] #21317
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Quote:

Has anyone asked their local ppg dealer for
"2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black??????????????????????,"

or do i have to do it...




You do it.....please....and get back to us...


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MuscleMopars] #21318
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I have a 72 duster twister.Does this car have the same painted stripes( not a decal)? Smooth to the touch. Original paint.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: cudaman1969] #21319
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I did the homework, I talked to my tech support at the local ppg dealer. The old number number is no good. 2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AF5DX8 Black

DDL9355 is still a mixable number.
Remember the texture of this is not as the stuff made in 1970, but close enough for most cars.

I am getting ready to paint a 1969 RR in all Lacquer...imagine that a car that looks like it's 1969 all over again. Cost is the same as BC/CC

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: ThermoQuad] #21320
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What do you recommend for your Spray Gun tip?

1.7 or 1.4?

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: P1970HeMICuDA] #21321
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1.7 is good but you had better be moving along as material comes out fast.

1.4 will work as well but you have to be careful to keep the distance close and be sure you are overlapping spraying the paint on wet.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: ThermoQuad] #21322
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Ok , getting ready to paint a12 hood ....

not going organisol , rather shoot myself .

Anything new on alternatives . Do the decals stick ?

Is there minimal metal flake hiding on an orig a12 hood ?

I dont think so , but ..... Figured id stir it up.

Might just use a SEM product ... We can argue about what was and is for years ..

I like it smooth , my 71 orig ag was smooth , No towels stuck , but wax did.

The hood decals need to lay on flat to the scoop
A12 stickers would never had stAyed on all these
Years, if been painted with textured..

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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: sogtx] #21323
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Hey guys, according to my shop, the DDL 9355 is not a working code.

Any other ideas?


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: dobie] #21324
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get a new supplier

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: dannysbee] #21325
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Quote:

Mike I don't know the code for it I just know the hoods did not have the texture that the restored cars have today. Possibly a flat black lacquer with a hot thinner. I got another question. Who painted the hoods the factory or the sub contractor that built the hoods?



PPG got the paint for mine and it was exactly like the orogonal.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21326
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21327
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Bump for old times....

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21328
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Bumping so if anyone has new info or procedure or updates or whatever to add.....there always seems to be a question about this

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21329
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Hi all, question ....In the black and white photo of the BEE, to me the rims look body colour not black like on A12 cars. Is it a promo factory photo? could be a service replacment hood to convert your standard BEE.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #21330
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I purchased my 1970 Challenger T/A new, I still have the car. The hood paint,blackout, rear spoiler (fin) are all painted with the same finish as this A12. There was NO texture to the paint. Yes, you can drag a cheese cloth across it with no grab.

Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: sailboat] #21331
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When we did an aar hood, followed this bulletin exactly and my dad sprayed it. He was painting cars weekly in laquer at a body shop he owned in the 70s... anyways it came out more textured. When I spray my challenger t/a clone, I'll be using something other than the original formula to get it more smooth.


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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: A12] #21332
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969 [Re: UCUDANT] #21333
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You cannot compare the surface finish of 40 plus year old organisol paint to new 2013 organisol paint unless it been in a hermetically sealed container. This paint wears easily over time.

Please cut and paste this document into your computer and maybe even print it....

Organisol Black Revised 11-2010

DDL9359

Disclaimer: I am no expert, but I am a painter and I have done my fair share of wresting with this paint. I have no experience putting DDL9355 over catalyzed paints as I was taught the arts when lacquer and enamel were all we had. When I paint it - it’s always on DP90 black primer or black lacquer paint. The problem is this lacquer paint wants to be put in wet and thin which means a lot of solvent which will try to bite into the enamel or urethane surface it’s being applied to.

NOTE: You must lay the paint down wet or the texture will stand up instead of lay down and you will have an extremely rough finish that attracts everything.

Paint surfaces horizontal if possible

Use the slowest thinner and add some retarder as well if it is above 80 degrees.

Patience.

Allow surfaces to dry for at least 30 days before painting cover coats. This is important.
Works best over a black painted surface
Black DP90 is fine

Put 2 light but wet cover coats of semi gloss black lacquer over colored primers
Allow to dry at least 24 hrs or more before organisoling,

Use a gun with a big tip 1.6mm or larger

Cross coat the large area surfaces in 3 directions –eliminates streaking of texture diag first, short length, long length with large overlapping passes. It must go on wet! Hello it must go on wet!

Test spray before committing to car. Practice a little. Use SLOW thinner !!!! Lay on WET!
Patience!!!!! Thin 125%, 150% last 2 coats

After getting full coverage of texture typically 4 coats thin each progressive coat to 150% Use your judgment Think about 6 -8 coats.

Allow each coat to dry for at least 30 min.

Patience.

Texture must cover surface completely-there should be no gaps in the texture. The purpose of laying it on cross coating & wet is to get the texture to lay down flat.

Edge it in with a touch up gun first

Use fine line tape on all paint edge breaks

Do the bottom side of the hood first-part of your practice

Paint all other surfaces at the same time as the top side of the hood.

Across the tops of the fender & across the front header panel and even the hood - be sure to add 1-2 extra coats of Orginosol to resist wear of the paint from stones, fender covers etc..

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