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Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #211371
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Good idea Dave, but will you be weighing it with or without the snow tires & tire chains?






It'll be "race ready" so that'll be WITH the snow tires and chains!


Dave


1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #211372
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My '73 Duster 340 weighs 3,500 pounds.

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #211373
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Have you ever seen these cars street race each other? If so who won. And why don't you get these 2 guys on the track and see who wins and answer the question once and for all. Personally, I think the GTX would take it.

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: WO23Coronet] #211374
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My 1970 weighs in at 3052 when it was stock >CAT scales. I realize they are not all that light but my 1973 Sat weighed in at close to 4000 + there is a big difference in weights the best way is a cert scale. This thread is good I like to hear the difference's but the best part would be a actual race between the two cars just for the heck of it!

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My 73 Challenger. 3545 w/o driver. 4 speed, 8 3/4, 360, aluminum intake, aluminum wheels, aluminum master cylinder, headers w/2 1/2"exhaust. It has 70 bumpers & grille. Also has power steering. I can't believe a stocker with iron intake, power brakes ,cast manifolds, steel wheels would be lighter. This car was wieghed at Norwalk raceway park on a electronic scale.
Doug

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: dvw] #211376
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DVW sorry I was referring to my a body car . My brothers 73 Cuda 340 pushed close to 3650 with alum intake and headers

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #211377
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DVW sorry I was referring to my a body car . My brothers 73 Cuda 340 pushed close to 3650 with alum intake and headers




Thanks for the clarification: you really had my scratching my head!

Still, though; these weights are all over the place. I mean your A body is almost 600lbs lighter than your brother's small block e-body with some lightweight goodies but Dustergirls Duster is 100 lbs HEAVIER than her Challenger!

I'm more confused than ever!

Dave


(ps. I'm NOT questioning the honesty of anyone here; I realize that we are talking different cars, years, engines, options etc. I'm just surprised about the spread)


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Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: DPelletier] #211378
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IMO the GTX will handle it easily. The 71 340's horsepower is something like 290hp while the 67 440 is 375hp that in itself will quickly overcome a few hundred pounds even with 3.23's....

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: QuickBpBp] #211379
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Well I find this discussion quite interesting cuz I BEEN THER, I DUN IT
It all started at one stop light and ended b4 th next, a half mile away. We agreed to start at a roll, 30 or 35 mph, Just right for my mostly stock 3:23 gear auto trans GTX I had headers and DP dist, short but wide tires We both hit th pedal at the same time, good even start. He was drivin A 70 sumthin 340 4 spd Cuda with lots of typical aftermarket stuff along with better gears, 3:91 or 4:10s. I remember that driver looking frantic in th other lane banging th gears while I calmly click my auto into another gear He was already in 4th before I ever got the 440 into high. Nothing light about my GTX, well it did hav drum brakes but th air conditioning made up for any weight savin I had
We were pretty much dead even untill I got hi gear, pulled him by about half a fender and we both lifted.
I dont kno who's cars above is faster, Lets see some video from them at th strip.
With that said I think I need a smoke and a beer.

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Put a big block 4 speed Scat Pack Dodge in your garage.
Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #211381
02/05/09 11:53 PM
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Daren, do yourselves and any others that may be watching you race a favor. Please race the cars, love to know which one will win, but do it at the drag strip where it's the safest for all involved.


Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #211382
02/06/09 09:00 AM
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I got $10 says the GTX wins...and I'll spot the small block a tenth.....

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: Mr.Yuck] #211383
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Waaaa back in 1976 my first car was a 68 rt charger, stock engine with headers , alu intake and holley dp with auto trans , 4.11 posi and a 10" tire , for 2 years I searched for any car to race , when I had the bucks for gas ,Most small blocks were 4 to 5 cars behind in high gear, mopar , chevy , ford ,I lost once to a guy 10 years older than me who had a hot big block chevy & he would only run from a 20 mph roll , I now race & favor small blocks , go figure?

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX [Re: Mr.Yuck] #211384
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I got $10 says the GTX wins...and I'll spot the small block a tenth.....




I'll take that bet!

...jeez, and I'm a Bigblock fan and have long since swore off smallblocks.

Color me a glutton for punishment!

Re: 71 340 Cuda vs 67 440 GTX #211385
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I had a 67 440 GTX with headers and torker intake with a 750 Holley in the 70's. I figured it was the hottest car in town until I met a 69 340 4 speed Cuda with 3.91 gears one night. A 69 Cuda is quite a bit lighter than a 71 but I still maintain the 71 with a good driver will whoop that 67 GTX. I love 67 GTX's and don't like 71 Cuda's but I still give the edge to the Cuda.

Sheldon

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