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Keith Black Racing Street Block #2103439
07/04/16 03:54 AM
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Hello All Is Keith Black Racing still in business as I have order a street wedge block last year, had to pay in full upfront $6125.00 kept in contact with Ken up in till 4 weeks ago his phone goes straight to the answering machine and he does not reply to any emails should I book a plane flight to the US?

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2103488
07/04/16 10:28 AM
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I bought a block from KB back in 2014. I found the best time to phone was around 2pm Pacific Time (US). But at least somebody answered the phone during regular California (Pacific US) work day hours. Lots of delays, but I did eventually get the block. Another racer near me received his block in 2015 about 16 months after ordering.

I haven't been in touch with KB this year.


1993 Daytona, 1973 Cuda 440, 2009 Challenger 5.7 Hemi, 2015 RAM 1500 5.7 Hemi 8-speed auto, Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104194
07/05/16 11:58 AM
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I'd keep hounding them. I have not heard much good about them in the past couple years. I know I wouldn't be placing an order w/ them right now. I bought my KB block back in 2006...things were a lot different then.


CHIP
'70 hemicuda...8 sec street car
'69 road runner 440 w/ Indy SRs
'69 road runner 440-6, 4 speed...Dad's ride
'71 Demon 340 resto project
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax...toy hauler
'16 Grand Caravan SXT...baby hauler
Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104344
07/05/16 04:35 PM
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I'm in the same boat. Ken sent me a picture of my block (well said it was my block) being machined on March 7, 2016. I paid the remaining balance and haven't heard a word since. No response to my emails or phone calls.


1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-
Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104367
07/05/16 05:12 PM
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Ordered my block oct. 6 2015. Can only reach ken after 3 pm in the evening. We are just the little guys. I figure it will be a great Christmas present. Ken told me my block should be end of july. When you want the best it is worth the wait.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2104414
07/05/16 06:16 PM
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After waiting waaaaaaayyyyyy longer than quoted and being lied to on the phone numeras times and after at least 20 calls I made a trip down there , to show him I wasn't fooling around with him anymore.... That got action and was ready a month after my first trip there.....heard kb would go above and beyond to make sure everything was perfect, that was a lie.... I spent $750 more to have a few items fixed.... I wish you luck!!! I would find a member on here that lives close to KB and have them make a visit or two....

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104623
07/06/16 12:15 AM
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Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104678
07/06/16 02:34 AM
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Little "guy" or not - if they are prepared to take your $$$$ then you are at least worth a reply/phone call/update to your enquiries - at a bare minimum.

Total BS sorry.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104696
07/06/16 03:35 AM
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Have a look on facebook at 'Aussie charger hot rod drag week' and you will see some of the problems associated with KB blocks. Keep scrolling down until you see the issues with the block. Its possible that they send defective blocks to overseas customers. If you finally get the block I would have it sent to a reputable shop in the US and have it thoroughly checked out before it is shipped.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104724
07/06/16 07:56 AM
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Called Today got through to Ken and he also email me back too. He said my block will be ready for delivery from the foundry in a few days will have to wait and see if it happens? Thanks for every ones feed back if any one here's any good or bad news please let me know.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2104864
07/06/16 11:48 AM
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I feel I should point out a few things that I have seen which were similar to the Aussie post which talks about KB oiling problems.

IMO, it's up to the builder to check what you have. You just can't assume anything, regardless of where it comes from. For example:

* KB block castings do not have lifter oiling so they have to be gun drilled if that's what you need. That process can hit the oil feed oil that would normally feed the head from the #4 cam bearing. A problem? - sure, but detectable and fixable before you get started.
* That gun drilling can be blocked off later if you install or relocate lifter bushings. I recently built a motor where I had to run oil lines in the lifter valley to get oil to the front of the oil galleys. A pain again?, sure, but again fixable.
* The gun drilled galleys are normally fed by oil that goes around the #5 cam bearing via an extra groove. I asked Ken at KB to prepare the block for 60mm roller cam bearings (I even sent him a bearing so he got the bore correct). When they enlarged the holes that they inadvertently removed that extra oil groove. I had to feed the galleys from an external line. A pain again, sure, but fixable again.
* The head feed holes that normally go to #4 cam bearing where blocked off by the shell of the roller cam bearing. So I added separate oil lines directly from the back of the block to feed the heads.

You have to check EVERYTHING. Ken stands behinds his product but the market has clearly stretched his ability to keep up with the QC. The good news was no major machining was required and everything could be fixed as long I spent the time to check everything before assembly.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2118343
07/26/16 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By 604Charger
Called Today got through to Ken and he also email me back too. He said my block will be ready for delivery from the foundry in a few days will have to wait and see if it happens? Thanks for every ones feed back if any one here's any good or bad news please let me know.


I heard the "my block will be ready for delivery from the foundry in a few days" for 16 months. Last March it was "your block is being machined, it'll be a couple weeks to get the sleeves and finish it up, please send the balance" I have not had a phone call or email answered since. I've called and emailed almost every day this month. To say I'm pissed is an understatement. I'm at 20 months from ordering and really starting to wonder.


1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-
Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: d7cook] #2118382
07/26/16 06:28 PM
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Man I hate to hear this from a company that was once so great. I look at the block recite from my purchase from ken several times a year and thank god I was so lucky to have zero issues with my purchase or delivery. Ken used to stop in once in awhile and I miss that


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: pittsburghracer] #2118386
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Have two close friends living this kb nightmare as we speak, one has been waiting close to 2yrs, the other one is close to a yr I believe. Same old story, broken record, both in over 6k each. I feel bad as I'm the the one that referred to them that the kb is the way to go. Not good..... I'm afraid they are both out.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: greendart408] #2118399
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I should be good for life but I too have highly recommended keith black racing as my block was spot on and only in need of the usual checking and cleaning. The worst part of a deal like this is lack of communication from ken. And that my friend would make me order an indy block if ever in need


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: pittsburghracer] #2118910
07/27/16 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I should be good for life but I too have highly recommended keith black racing as my block was spot on and only in need of the usual checking and cleaning. The worst part of a deal like this is lack of communication from ken. And that my friend would make me order an indy block if ever in need

iagree I got my KB block back in 2006 and it was/is a very nice piece. Needed very minimal work to put it together and run. I'd always told everyone to go w/ KB over anyone else, but that's sure not the case now. I hope you fellas that have given them money can get something back...whether it be a block or your money. I'd be flying out to Cali. if he had 6 grand of mine!


CHIP
'70 hemicuda...8 sec street car
'69 road runner 440 w/ Indy SRs
'69 road runner 440-6, 4 speed...Dad's ride
'71 Demon 340 resto project
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax...toy hauler
'16 Grand Caravan SXT...baby hauler
Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2119207
07/27/16 04:55 PM
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6 Grand, lol try 7500...It is very nerve wrecking to have that money in someone hands that wont return calls or emails. I'm too nice but ya I'm at 10 months and waiting... I am only 6 or so hours away from kb but ya it sucks...

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: 604Charger] #2119220
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His phone line is busy right now...Maybe life there after all.

Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: WedgeFED] #2119252
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
His phone line is busy right now...Maybe life there after all.


Hopefully it wasn't the janitor called for a food delivery.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Keith Black Racing Street Block [Re: pittsburghracer] #2119269
07/27/16 06:35 PM
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lol it is still busy...

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